- From: Stefan Eissing <stefan.eissing@greenbytes.de>
- Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:34:48 +0100
- To: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
- Cc: "Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@microsoft.com>, "Dan Brickley" <danbri@w3.org>, "www-tag @ w3. org" <www-tag@w3.org>
The inventions of new feed: (and Apples cal:) uri schemes and the limitations of mime type based resource handling, show that there is a big hole in web usability, waiting for a architecturally elegant solution. Fortunately, the "hole" is not in the lower layers of the web architecture as the "feed" resource are still valid http resources and carry, at least implicitly, a http uri. The problem is not about hacking a browser as people would like to include a "pointer" to the feed in their email as well (and yes, it should work in the complete absence of html mails). Noone is comfortable with the feed:/cal:/whateverisnext: mess and something like xlink will not solve the mail problem either. A good solution could be a meta uri reference scheme like use:type[:typespecificextnoatsign]@urireference So one can write links like the following use:rss@http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.rss or as href in a html page at www.tbray.org <a href="use:rss@/ongoing/ongoing.rss">subscribe</a> or <a href="use:mime:text/xml@/ongoing/ongoing.rss">view rss source</a> or <a href="use:webdav@http://greenbytes.de:81/wcm/docs">open webfolder</a> Either browsers adopt the new meta scheme or one writes a single application registered for "use:" uris which handles the forwarding to all other apps. The advantage of this approach over the feed:/cal:/whatever: uris is that generic clients like wget can handle these uris with just little changes as well. Regards, Stefan Am 06.12.2003 um 19:19 schrieb Tim Bray: > > On Dec 6, 2003, at 10:09 AM, Dare Obasanjo wrote: > >> If we have a MIME type that always involves invoking a separate >> application when a user clicks on a feed how does one perform HTTP >> GETs on the feed to view the XML content in their browser then? So >> does this mean servers have to use separate MIME types for the same >> file or that the assumption is that no one will ever want to click on >> a feed and see the actual content in their web browser? Both seem >> like gross hacks to me. > > I suspect that anyone who really wants to see the XML source code is > probably capable of right-click-to-download or wget or some other way > around the problem. -Tim
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