- From: Jonathan Borden <jonathan@openhealth.org>
- Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 23:34:58 -0400
- To: "Tim Bray" <tbray@textuality.com>, <www-tag@w3.org>
- Cc: <www-tag@w3.org>
> > I have an action item to get some www-tag discourse going on this one. > > Per the Namespaces REC, a qname can be seen as a two-tuple: namespace > name, local name. The namespace name is a URI reference. > > In RDF, there is an explicit mechanism for turning these into URIs: > concatenate the namespace name and the local name. For this reason, > namespaces for RDF applications often end in '#' or '/'. > > Qnames work effectively as universally-unique labels in markup > applications. Given that the Web has as one of its bases the notion of > the universal flat URI namespace, it would seem desirable to express a > qname as a URI, as is done in RDF. That is to say, given any element > type (in the XML 1.0 sense) that was a qname, it would have its own URI > that you could use to talk about it and potentially retrieve information > about it. There are two related issues: 1. How to convert a QName into a URIreference in the general case. 2. A QName may be either an element type name or an attribute type name, what/which should the URI reference identify? > > It wouldn't be that hard to write a simple rule for mapping qnames to > URIs. A little thought shows that it the mapping would have to be > reversible, which adds to the difficulty, but is certainly not > insuperable. It might not be possible to be entirely compatible with > the way RDF 1.0 has done this, but perhaps it's not too late to fix RDF. As you note, RDF tends to use "/" or "#" to terminate namespace URIs for the reason that RDF's algorithm is to concat the namespace URI and local name to form a URI reference. The problem exists for namespace URIs that end in an alphanumeric character. I propose that when a namespace URI ends in an alphanumeric, a "#" be inserted between the namespace URI and local name to form a URI reference. The issue of roundtripping would still exist, i.e. given a URI reference would this be split into a namespace URI including or excluding the "#", but nonetheless, this algorithm is probably the best for namespace names that either do, or do not end in an alphanumeric. > > So the first-level questions to address are: > > - is this a good thing to do? > - how important is it, relative to all the other things the W3C needs to > worry about? Shucks. Some specs e.g. XSDL and XMLNS/XML use QNames as type names, others such as RDF use URI refs as type names. I'd say its important to have a consistent.way to convert a QName into a URI ref (which is easy to do) and I would like a consistent way to convert a URI ref into a QName, (but that is a bit harder) > > There's a meta-question that goes along with these. If every qname > becomes a URI, the question arises of what the URI addresses. These > would be useful, just as namespaces are useful, even in the absence of a > resource representation to be obtained by dereferencing. On the other > hand history shows that people expect URIs to be dereferencable and are > confused when they're not. RDDL (http://www.rddl.org) is an example > that shows the kind of thing you might want to get by dereferencing this > kind of namespace URI). Assuming that it's a good idea to map qnames to > URIs, is it necessary at the same time to solve the issue of what they > should point at (which BTW is TAG issue #8). -Tim > Concur. Jonathan
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