Re: new feature request

> On Mar 13, 2015, at 12:44 AM, Smailus, Thomas O <Thomas.O.Smailus@boeing.com> wrote:
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> Its not just the animation aspect (and the kludge of going to a raster format to mimic it) but the lack of interactivity in general, that is lost.
> We use SVG to create interactive diagrams of complex systems where user interaction can interact with the system.  Its not just animation.
> Hobbling SVG to a basic vector format gives up a big part of its capability.

The point of Boris is that the hosting service where you upload an IMG doesn’t want it to be interactive to protect their users. If there is the intention to allow interactive SVG content they would embed the SVG document with the <object> tag and the interactivity is preserved.

The current behavior of SVG images (SVG embedded as image) is intentionally limited. A hosting service can rely on SVG images to not execute any script and not load any resources and simply behaves like a GIF would do in the same place. This promise hopefully will bring SVG to social media at all. As far as I know, SVG is not supported by any major social media platform today. This is probably the case because those platforms are not aware that SVG images are no threat to their users.

Greetings,
Dirk

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> Thomas
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Dailey [mailto:ddailey@zoominternet.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:55
> To: 'Boris Zbarsky'; www-svg@w3.org
> Subject: RE: new feature request
> 
> Social media sites (SM) do not want to enable <object> as the host of user-uploaded images because of not wanting to trust third-party scripts [1]. Social media are, in terms of overall volume of readership probably as big as |WWW minus SM| . And leaving animation to be handled by animated GIF seems an unpleasant value of the status quo in terms of accessibility and bandwidth. At urging of Philip Rogers, yesterday in response, I'll be trying to talk to some of the folks at Wikimedia and Ello to see what their concerns might be. 
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> Education is interactive. Images are educational. If ya'll in the standards world mean something by the term "use cases" other than "reasons for doing things," then I will need some of that interactive re-education I am talking about but please, no animated GIF's for me.
> 
> Cheers
> David   
> [1] I have actually heard such from a real human charged with running one SM.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Zbarsky [mailto:bzbarsky@mit.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 2:02 PM
> To: www-svg@w3.org
> Subject: Re: new feature request
> 
> On 3/5/15 1:52 PM, David Dailey wrote:
>> Would there be any  simpler way to solve the security problem short of 
>> tossing out the use cases?
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> I'd like to understand what use cases here are not addressed by using an <object> pointing to the SVG instead of using an <img>.
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> -Boris
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