- From: Erik Dahlstrom <ed@opera.com>
- Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 11:39:54 +0100
- To: "www-svg@w3.org" <www-svg@w3.org>
On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:35:34 +0100, Richard Schwerdtfeger  
<schwer@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html
>
>
> Rich Schwerdtfeger
The same minutes in text format for tracker:
    [1]W3C
       [1] http://www.w3.org/
                                - DRAFT -
                     SVG Working Group Teleconference
07 Mar 2013
    [2]Agenda
       [2]  
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2013JanMar/0064.html
    See also: [3]IRC log
       [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-irc
Attendees
    Present
           Rich, [IPcaller], ed, cabanier, hober, smfr, dino, krit,
           +33.9.53.77.aaaa, Tav, +61.2.980.5.aabb, nikos
    Regrets
    Chair
           ed
    Scribe
           Rich
Contents
      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Transformation Proposal
          2. [6]SVG2 publication status
          3. [7]Pseudo stacking context for 2D transformations
          4. [8]Masking
          5. [9]Filter Effects
          6. [10]Make filter regions unbound
          7. [11]Publication of new WD
          8. [12]Referencing the HTML spec
      * [13]Summary of Action Items
      __________________________________________________________
    <trackbot> Date: 07 March 2013
    <richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Rich
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: skip over publication status
    <dino>
    [14]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/matrix/index.h
    tml
      [14] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/matrix/index.html
Transformation Proposal
    <nikos> Zakim +61.2.9 is me
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: at the last face to face we though
    it would be a go change to create a new svg matrix that is
    integral with other specifications so that could be used with
    canvas
    <krit>
    [15]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/tip/matrix/index.html
      [15] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/tip/matrix/index.html
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: they thought it was good and to
    evolve over time
    <krit>
    [16]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/matrix/index.h
    tml#webidl-ref
      [16]  
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/matrix/index.html#webidl-ref
    <richardschwerdtfeger> the interface is quite similar to the
    interface proposed by D Jackson
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: I made more compatible with SVG
    matrix. It has a 2 dimensional scale. it scales to the x and y
    axis
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: there is one more change. for svg
    matrix for 2d compatibility
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: just 2d instead of 3d
    <dino> the change was rotate() to be compatible with SVG, so is
    only 2d
    <dino> but 3d is covered by rotateAxisAngle
    <richardschwerdtfeger> smfr: maybe you should take vector x, y,
    z
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: just the x and y
    <richardschwerdtfeger> thanks
    <richardschwerdtfeger> smfr/we did not have skew z
    <dino> smfr: suggest renaming to rotate(double angle, optional
    double originX, ...)
    <dino> smfr: the fact that x,y is origin should be clear, and
    that the x,y,z from rotateAxisAngle is a vector
    <krit>
    [17]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/matrix/index.h
    tml#the-constructors
      [17]  
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/matrix/index.html#the-constructors
    <richardschwerdtfeger> smfr: I would like to ask the same
    question as David Baron. Can they take a string and slam into a
    transform attribute
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: yes. takes a DOM String and does a
    CSS transform
    <richardschwerdtfeger> Kitt: if you have an element get the
    transform out of it. … the pixel would not be the same.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> smfr: maybe this text needs some
    non-normative examples. The spec. is isolated right now
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: the specification can reference
    it.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: i happy to put more informative
    text in it
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: examples like this one with a
    constructor with dom strings in it and the transforms.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> smfr: when you are inputing a string
    where it the text for the conversion into the matrix
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: that is why issue 3 is there
    <richardschwerdtfeger> … I think it is ok to put an example in
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: if we keep it I will extend the
    example
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: for SVG it might not be a problem
    because SVG 1 is already a recommendation
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: if you translate 2020 to 20px
    <krit>
    [18]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/matrix/index.h
    tml#widl-Matrix-translate-Matrix-double-tx-double-ty-double-tz
      [18]  
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/matrix/index.html#widl-Matrix-translate-Matrix-double-tx-double-ty-double-tz
    <richardschwerdtfeger> … trying to learn the voices
    <richardschwerdtfeger> :-)
    <ed> Constructor (DOMString transformList),
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: this takes double
    <ed> new Matrix("translate(20,20)") something liek that
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: yeah that works. you don't have
    units for the pixel
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: one for presentation and one for
    CSS presentation attributes. We can't say we have a relaxed
    syntax for the DOM string as well.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: we have 2 different syntaxes at
    the moment - one relaxed and one strict
    <richardschwerdtfeger> smfr: we can decide what people want?
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: I don't see why the CSS wg would
    object to that.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: do we publish this?
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: yes
    <richardschwerdtfeger> RESOLUTION: SVG WG wants to publish
    Transformation matrix interface spec as a first public working
    draft
    <richardschwerdtfeger> Dean: why don't we ask to publish it as
    a first public working draft?
    <richardschwerdtfeger> thanks
    <richardschwerdtfeger> ACTION: Krit mail the spec. to the
    effects list and have David Barron review. [recorded in
    [19]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action01]
    <trackbot> Created ACTION-3470 - Mail the spec. to the effects
    list and have David Barron review. [on Dirk Schulze - due
    2013-03-14].
    <richardschwerdtfeger>
    [20]http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-transforms/
      [20] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-transforms/
SVG2 publication status
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: I will reference HTML5 vs. the
    working draft
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: put an action on me to make that
    happen
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: I will contact the appropriate
    people to make it publish
    <richardschwerdtfeger> nikos: Any idea why my changes would not
    result in a notification?
    <ed> ACTION: erik to follow up on getting the SVG2 WD
    published, run linkchecker etc [recorded in
    [21]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action02]
    <trackbot> Created ACTION-3471 - Follow up on getting the SVG2
    WD published, run linkchecker etc [on Erik Dahlström - due
    2013-03-14].
    <richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: Can I touch the spec. since you
    are taking it to public working draft
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: can we reference a specific
    version in Mercurial?
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: wait until we get this published
    <richardschwerdtfeger> nikos: Once publication has happened, we
    will need to remove highlighting for changes since last WD 1,
    in preparation for editing for WD 2
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik:
Pseudo stacking context for 2D transformations
    <richardschwerdtfeger> smfr: do not address to day and leave on
    mailing list
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: OK
Masking
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: all masks are clipped at the
    moment
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: I would like to ask if we could
    skip this binding and use the bounding box. … an unbound mask
    <richardschwerdtfeger> Krit: only place - filters are bound.
    <krit>
    [22]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/masking/index.
    html#MaskElementXAttribute
      [22]  
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/masking/index.html#MaskElementXAttribute
    <richardschwerdtfeger> smfr: I don't have any problems with
    masks being unbounded.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: the default value matching is 10%
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: ah ok
    <richardschwerdtfeger> smrf: I think this important in HTML
    where you may be masking and the content overflows and you
    don't want the content to get clipped by the mask
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: the clipping could effect the
    content
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: to me it sounds better to use the
    unbounded one but I guess that is something to look at to see
    how much content is effected
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: guess not that much
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: how do we get data as to whether
    content is effected in a negative way.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: this does not affect explictly set
    x, y with height.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: yes
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: I guess one way to look at it
    would be see what authoring tools output.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: I don't think there is going to be
    much of a problem
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: do we want to get to a resolution
    or delay that
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: I think it would be fine to have
    the spec. allow it and deal with any concerns at the next draft
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: next version should be the last
    call
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: do you see any problem along that
    or the other way around
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: there is the property called mask
    .. maskclip but this does not apply to the mask element
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: I don't have a strong opinion
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: any objections to having unbounded
    masks?
    <richardschwerdtfeger> RESOLUTION: allow unbounded masks and
    see what we get back from last call
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: CSS X, y, and height . Is it ok
    that we don't specify them in SVG2 and not in this
    specification?
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: I think that is probably fine
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: so at the moment there is nothing
    to reference
Filter Effects
    <richardschwerdtfeger> @support rule for filter effects
    extension
    <richardschwerdtfeger>
    [23]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/filters/index.
    html#support-condition-filter
      [23]  
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/raw-file/default/filters/index.html#support-condition-filter
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: I put this on the mailing list
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: Ok so follow up with the
    discussion on the mailing list
Make filter regions unbound
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: the only problems as we have some
    filter effects that produce infinite boundaries
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: things like lighting filters or
    inputs could be effected
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: this filter has a drop shadow
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: we still have the 10% margin and
    everything outside gets clipped awayu
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: I agree this problem has been up
    for discussion a number of times
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: for example feFlood has unbounded
    output, so can just fill the viewport e.g
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: there can be problems. I would
    write a proposal where there could be problems and with a
    solution for that. Is it worth it for me to do that or is it
    too difficult to be specified
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: we have a sort of unbounded filter
    region already with filterUnits=userSpaceOnUse, requires impls
    to optimize otherwise perf is really bad
    <richardschwerdtfeger> erik: I think it would be much of a
    problem to run a similar filter on this
    <richardschwerdtfeger> krit: can you and I work on that?
    <krit> ACTION: ed and krit to work together on an unbound
    filter proposal [recorded in
    [24]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action03]
    <trackbot> Created ACTION-3472 - And krit to work together on
    an unbound filter proposal [on Erik Dahlström - due
    2013-03-14].
    <krit> ACTION: krit to work together on an unbound filter
    proposal [recorded in
    [25]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action04]
    <trackbot> Created ACTION-3473 - Work together on an unbound
    filter proposal [on Dirk Schulze - due 2013-03-14].
Publication of new WD
    <richardschwerdtfeger> Erik: I don't have any problems with
    publishing a new working draft
    <richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: would like to get tabindex out in
    a public working draft
    <richardschwerdtfeger> rich: never mind
    <richardschwerdtfeger> :-)
    <richardschwerdtfeger> RESOLUTION: publish a new working draft
    of the filter effect spec.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> ACTION: krit create the public working
    draft [recorded in
    [26]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action05]
    <trackbot> Created ACTION-3474 - Create the public working
    draft [on Dirk Schulze - due 2013-03-14].
    <scribe> scribenick: cabanier
Referencing the HTML spec
    <richardschwerdtfeger>
    [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2013JanMa
    r/0055.html
      [27]  
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2013JanMar/0055.html
    richardschwerdtfeger: I started working on tabindex
    … we found a number of interesting points that we need to agree
    on
    <richardschwerdtfeger> 1. Do you agree that the way event
    listeners are registered in SVG and HTML
    <richardschwerdtfeger> should be the
    <richardschwerdtfeger> same? -- both should support
    `element.addEventListener("click", ...)` and
    <richardschwerdtfeger> `element.onclick = ...`. (The latter
    needs some spec work still, but
    <richardschwerdtfeger> implementations all support this.)
    richardschwerdtfeger: this discussion, should we follow the
    same scheme for eventl listener like html
    … how are they registered in svg 1
    <ed> rich, did you see my response here:
    [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2013Feb/0061.ht
    ml (please keep technical discussions on the www-svg list)
      [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2013Feb/0061.html
    krit: it should not be different
    ed: it should work the same, yes
    … did you see my reply
    … I responded to some of your points
    richardschwerdtfeger: I didn't see that
    <richardschwerdtfeger> 2. There are some inconsistencies
    between the events SVG defines to fire
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > and those in HTML. We need to be
    harmonizing these and
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > should do it for SVG 2.
    … number 2, there are inconsistencies. we have focus out in svg
    2 but HTML has onblur
    … should they be consistent or should there be a mapping
    krit: onfocus is already used. can we have them in parallel or
    should we map them?
    richardschwerdtfeger: not sure.
    ed: it should be possible to map them. they are different event
    <richardschwerdtfeger> This is about SVG not having the focus
    and blur events, right? I think SVG
    <richardschwerdtfeger> should have them. Feel free to add a
    complete list of the inconsistencies
    <richardschwerdtfeger> you found.
    richardschwerdtfeger: since we're sharing the same dom, should
    we have the same events?
    krit: so, if onfocus fires, onblur should fire too
    richardschwerdtfeger: yes.
    … SVG didn't have keyboard focusable events
    krit: blur is for mouse
    richardschwerdtfeger: we do have the anchor
    … what do we want to do for that?
    … should the spec say that they're the same
    ed: they are 2 different events
    … I don't see a problem with allowing both and then mapping
    them so old and new content
    … one might fire after the other
    richardschwerdtfeger: OK
    … so maybe only 1 event listener
    ed: no, you can have listener for both events
    … I'm not sure if they're connected right now but they could be
    richardschwerdtfeger: where would the event stop. would it go
    outside the svg container?
    ed: with an iframe?
    richardschwerdtfeger: we have an svg doc in a html doc. the
    onblur in the svg is not processed. does it go up?
    ed: if the svg is inline, yes, it should
    richardschwerdtfeger: …(?)
    … if we have onfocus out and onblur and nothing captured them,
    only onblur would get out because onfocus is not recognized by
    the parent
    <ed> not sure that's correct
    <ed> events typically bubble regardless of the event type if
    they bubble
    … the next one is: how do the document and window align between
    html and svg
    … what if you have a reader that only supports SVG. how much of
    HTML do we have to implement?
    … Cam, suggested the following text:
    <richardschwerdtfeger> Cam suggested the following intorductory
    text:
    <richardschwerdtfeger> >
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > Conforming SVG interpreters are not
    required to implement HTML;
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > however, some specific features of
    HTML are required to be
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > implemented.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> >
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > And then later in the spec:
    <richardschwerdtfeger> >
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > A conforming SVG interpreter that does
    not also implement HTML
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > must implement the following IDL
    fragment:
    <richardschwerdtfeger> >
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > partial interface Document {
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > readonly attribute Element?
    activeElement;
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > };
    <richardschwerdtfeger> >
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > The activeElement attribute must have
    the same behavior as
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > described in HTML. [with a link to
    HTML's definition of
    <richardschwerdtfeger> > activeElement]
    <richardschwerdtfeger>
    [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2013Feb/0061.ht
    ml
      [29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2013Feb/0061.html
    <richardschwerdtfeger> Document element Interface:
    [30]https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/struct.html#InterfaceSVGDocume
    nt
      [30] https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/struct.html#InterfaceSVGDocument
    <richardschwerdtfeger> DOM Document element Interface:
    [31]http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-dom-20120405/#interface-docume
    nt
      [31] http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-dom-20120405/#interface-document
    <richardschwerdtfeger> HTML5 Document element Interface:
    [32]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/dom.html#the-docum
    ent-object
      [32]  
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/dom.html#the-document-object
    krit: is it part of the integration spec?
    richardschwerdtfeger: I posted 3 links
    … we would say to add this text for SVG to the document object
    … for SVG standalone, you'd have these properties
    … does that make sense?
    krit: I think I have an action on this
    … we already relying on the document interface of HTML5
    richardschwerdtfeger: so, you're referring to the document
    object of htmk5
    krit: yes. I have an action to add the link
    richardschwerdtfeger: you want this spec:
    <richardschwerdtfeger>
    [33]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/dom.html#the-docum
    ent-object
      [33]  
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/dom.html#the-document-object
    richardschwerdtfeger: that's the cr version
    krit: ah. I think I have the wrong one then
    … I'm using the partial interface
    … HTML5 is relying on the definition of DOM (?)
    … this is a problem. We have dom4 now
    <richardschwerdtfeger>
    [34]https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/struct.html#InterfaceSVGDocume
    nt
      [34] https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/struct.html#InterfaceSVGDocument
    richardschwerdtfeger: this is the current spec
    … I need the activeElement to be there
    krit: If we say document is an HTMLDocument
    richardschwerdtfeger: we have other things in here
    <richardschwerdtfeger> partial interface Document {
    <richardschwerdtfeger> readonly attribute DOMString title;
    <richardschwerdtfeger> readonly attribute DOMString referrer;
    <richardschwerdtfeger> readonly attribute DOMString domain;
    <richardschwerdtfeger> readonly attribute SVGSVGElement
    rootElement;
    <richardschwerdtfeger> };
    … this is what we currently have
    … and we want to add activeElement
    … and it's not in DOM4
    krit: is it in html5?
    [35]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/editing.html#dom-d
    ocument-activeelement
      [35]  
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/editing.html#dom-document-activeelement
    who is editing dom4?
    richardschwerdtfeger: I don't know
    krit: could you follow up?
    <krit> s/up/up with Anne van Kesteren/ ?
    [36]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
      [36] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
    krit: can you follow up with Anne and other?
    … ms2ger is also good
    richardschwerdtfeger: for publishing, you might want to add the
    right link
    … here it is:
    <richardschwerdtfeger> [37]http://www.w3.org/TR/dom/
      [37] http://www.w3.org/TR/dom/
    … do we need title, referrer, domain in dom 4?
    <scribe> ACTION: richardschwerdtfeger to ask HTML WG and Anne
    to add activeElement to their spec [recorded in
    [38]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action06]
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    <scribe> ACTION: rich to ask HTML WG and Anne to add
    activeElement to their spec [recorded in
    [40]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action07]
    <trackbot> Created ACTION-3475 - Ask HTML WG and Anne to add
    activeElement to their spec [on Richard Schwerdtfeger - due
    2013-03-14].
    <richardschwerdtfeger> 4. When HTML refers to tab navigation it
    indicates the elements that can
    <richardschwerdtfeger> receive focus without using tabindex.
    Examples are command, input, and
    <richardschwerdtfeger> anchor elements. Cam and I think this is
    fine if the UA does not implement
    <richardschwerdtfeger> HTML and therefore won't be doing
    anything with <html:input> elements for
    <richardschwerdtfeger> example, then it doesn't matter if they
    are focusable by default or not.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> Yet, in terms of defining that <svg:a>
    is focusable by default, we might
    <richardschwerdtfeger> need to get HTML to change there --
    either by having a hook that we can
    <richardschwerdtfeger> refer to from SVG to state that <svg:a>
    is focusable by default, or just by
    <richardschwerdtfeger> HTML defining it so. Do people agree we
    should define this in HTML?
    richardschwerdtfeger: we might need to html to change their
    spec
    ed: svg tiny already does define that elements are focusable
    richardschwerdtfeger: do you want to put that in our spec that
    certain elements are focusable?
    ed: that would make more sense.
    richardschwerdtfeger: are there others that are focusable in
    tiny?
    ed: yes, you could do it on any element.
    richardschwerdtfeger: we were using tabindex
    ed: we can see if it can be made compatible
    richardschwerdtfeger: tabindex of −1 would change the tab order
    … would this change the tab order?
    ed: yes
    richardschwerdtfeger: so it's equivalent to tabindex 0
    … so you think we should say something like that?
    ed: yes
    <richardschwerdtfeger> rich: so focusable is equivalent to
    tabindex="0" in DOM order sequential navigation
    richardschwerdtfeger: do we need to say anything in the HTML
    spec since anchor is alreadu focusable
    ed: I'm unsure. aspects in the model are not defined
    richardschwerdtfeger: yes, that's the browser context
    …. if we need to go to the html wg we can do that
    <richardschwerdtfeger> 5. The HTML5 spec. defines how to
    process browsing contexts. IOW documents
    <richardschwerdtfeger> in a document when it comes to
    sequential navigation. Do people agree we
    <richardschwerdtfeger> can just refer to the HTML5 definition
    of browsing context? This will also
    <richardschwerdtfeger> be important when we embed <iframe>s in
    and SVG document per the face to
    <richardschwerdtfeger> face.
    <richardschwerdtfeger> This was the approach I was going to
    take when adding tabindex.
    richardschwerdtfeger: do people agree that we refer to browsing
    context when we do sequential navigation?
    ed: yes
    krit: yes
    richardschwerdtfeger: ok, we'll refer to HTML5 and go from
    there
Summary of Action Items
    [NEW] ACTION: ed and krit to work together on an unbound filter
    proposal [recorded in
    [41]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action03]
    [NEW] ACTION: erik to follow up on getting the SVG2 WD
    published, run linkchecker etc [recorded in
    [42]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action02]
    [NEW] ACTION: krit create the public working draft [recorded in
    [43]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action05]
    [NEW] ACTION: Krit mail the spec. to the effects list and have
    David Barron review. [recorded in
    [44]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action01]
    [NEW] ACTION: krit to work together on an unbound filter
    proposal [recorded in
    [45]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action04]
    [NEW] ACTION: rich to ask HTML WG and Anne to add activeElement
    to their spec [recorded in
    [46]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action07]
    [NEW] ACTION: richardschwerdtfeger to ask HTML WG and Anne to
    add activeElement to their spec [recorded in
    [47]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-svg-minutes.html#action06]
    [End of minutes]
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