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Re: Agenda request: Presentation attributes in animation sandwich model

From: Daniel Holbert <dholbert@mozilla.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:46:46 -0800
Message-ID: <4F482166.3040003@mozilla.com>
To: Dirk Schulze <dschulze@adobe.com>
CC: "SVG WG (public-svg-wg@w3.org)" <public-svg-wg@w3.org>, "www-svg@w3.org" <www-svg@w3.org>, "L. David Baron" <dbaron@dbaron.org>
On 02/24/2012 03:20 PM, Dirk Schulze wrote:
> Can you give an example of a potential depth-spiral?

Suppose SMIL is animating opacity from 0 to 1 over one second.  Suppose 
the first SMIL sample is at 0.1s -- so SMIL will update the opacity to 
0.1.  This causes the computed style of opacity to change (from 0 to 
0.1).  If we have "transition-property: opacity" set, then that can 
trigger a transition, spreading this 0-->0.1 change out over some period 
of time (the transition-duration).  This would happen for _every SMIL 
sample_ -- we'd get tons of intermediate transitions, smearing out the 
effects of the SMIL animation and stomping on each other.

("death-spiral" might have been an exaggeration, but the point is we'd 
get tons of probably-unintended transitions being fired)

So -- to prevent this, Gecko prevents transitions from being triggered 
by the style changes produced by SMIL animations.

> Please don't take WebKit as reference

Cool.  (I didn't mean to do so; I was just stating the facts. :))

>> I tested Opera,
>> too, but it wouldn't seem to honor the transition.
> Could it mean that SMIL animation just overrides Transition?

No. I included a rect at the bottom of the testcase that has no SMIL 
animation at all -- _just_ a CSS transition.  Even there, Opera ignores 
the transition.


P.S. I posted a testcase with CSS animations competing against SMIL, here:
In both Webkit & Gecko, the CSS animation "wins" there.  Opera ignores 
the CSS animation completely. (I'm not sure about their css animation 
support.)  (I'm not testing IE because I'm on Linux at the moment.)
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