- From: Helder Magalhães <helder.magalhaes@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:12:00 +0000
- To: "Dr. Olaf Hoffmann" <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>
- Cc: www-svg@w3.org
Hi everyone, > Because older viewers only interprete SVG fonts (partly), however > removing is no option anyway. > For example on my current Linux systems for the still pretty good > Adobe plugin it is the only way to display SVGs containing text > by using an embedded font, because obviously Adobe forgot to > embed at least one default font and the plugin obviously does not > like or find the fonts available on the computer (presumable some > kind of free font format compatible with the Debian licence conditions). That's apparently a Linux-only issue. I've been using a few awkward/rather old TTF fonts (for compatibility with previous content) with IE+ASV (on Windows XP and above) with success for a few years now. By comparison, Firefox only "recently" (with version 3.0 or 3.5, I don't recall by heart) got it right. I did notice a tricky situation while using font names with spaces: double quotes aren't used and ASV doesn't support aposthrophe (') in font-family; Opera (I estimate that testing was made with version 8 or 9) complains if " is used (apparently there's no need for them also). So idea is matching the font name exactly, as declared in the font's metadata, with no extra cruft. Example: font-family="New Century SchoolBook, Bookman, serif" >> The >> use cases just aren't strong enough to justify the ongoing cost >> of implementation/testing this mostly redundant feature. I'm not a fervent supporter of SVG fonts, as both 1) I never had a serious need to use them and 2) I didn't see good enough cross-implementation support for them, yet. However, I do sense openness and easiness in the (SVG) format for creating (it's there since Inkscape 0.47 [1], for example) combining and mixing graphics which then turn into characters. Could it be scaring font vendors a bit, particularly regarding intellectual property and return of investment? I somehow understand these concerns, although I don't believe piracy fights with becoming the authoring process more complex, but with clear licensing rules and reasonable costs [2], when applicable. (Of course both can be hijacked, but that's with any technology). IMO, current SVG implementations are mature enough to "risk" going through the way of implementing full SVG fonts. I confess I even felt some sadness with the recent "boom" of WOFF and other open font formats, not that they aren't good enough (I'm simply not into the details) but for the lost opportunity for SVG Fonts to become an ubiquitous standard . Currently, I'm with Patrick in the sense that implementors seem to be placing their money on WOFF at the moment. Keeping development of the SVG Fonts as a module in SVG 2.0 seems to be the most reasonable decision at this stage and will still allow a user demand driven "time will tell". ;-) Cheers, Helder [1] http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.47#Initial_SVG_Fonts_support [2] http://www.dontmakemesteal.com/
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