- From: Andreas Neumann <a.neumann@carto.net>
- Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:19:35 +0100
- To: "Dr. Olaf Hoffmann" <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>
- Cc: <www-svg@w3.org>
well explained - Olaf. I second your argument. SVG fonts are important and will hopefully be implemented in all browsers. It is a hen and egg problem. Currently, only Batik, Opera and Webkit-based browsers support SVG fonts (only the version with the d-attribute). The market share of these browsers may be around 15-25 percent. The larger market share does not support SVG fonts. No wonder that SVG fonts are not widely used. If SVG fonts are implemented beyond just the d-attribute (such as it is the case in Alex'/Abbra implementation) it opens a lot of additional options: * Multicolor fonts * fonts with patterns * fonts with multimedia * fonts with animation It is also true, what Olaf explained, that in SVG a content author often just needs a subset instead of a complete font. The possibility to add just certain glyphs into or linked to a document allows for smaller file sizes than just linking to a full ttf/otf/woff or whatever font. Just my opinion as a content author, Andreas On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:55:53 +0100, Dr. Olaf Hoffmann wrote: > John Daggett: >>Can someone explain what the features are that are not offered in >> TrueType >>fonts? > > I think, the possibility to embed SVG fonts within a graphics (SVG > document) > is an important feature for authors, as soon as this is widely > implemented. > The glyphs can be created with features from SVG, no need to learn > yet > another format not much related to the graphical problem, the authors > has, > if just a few glyphs are needed for a logo or something like that. > SVG fonts help to keep things simple for authors, especially for > those not > very interested in creating complete fonts for general use, but just > some > glyphs for a special purpose. > If the glyph information is directly embedded in the SVG document, it > is > simply possible to provide standalone documents with predictable > behaviour > for the presentation of the glyphs. > To assume that referenced external fonts in another format are always > available is risky and I think it will not be acceptable for some > designers > with a quite detailed opinion about the appearance of their graphics > and > how to control this on their own. > > Of course, other font formats will be typically pretty useful for > documents > with mainly text (XHTML etc). A detailed control about the appearance > of a glyph it typically not so important for the author of such text > documents > as for some text within an SVG document with close relation to other > graphical content. > > If such an SVG font feature is not available or only optional or not > widely > implemented, authors will use the path element for this purpose and > the > text information will not survive. This happens already know, because > SVG font implementations in some widely used viewers is not very good > or not available at all. > What remains is pure graphics with no more textual, accessible > information > in it. If SVG fonts work, at least some of those authors can be > convinced to > provide accessible documents and not just colorful decorative > graphics. > Therefore it is important to have such a feature to help authors to > provide > more meaningful documents. > > Olaf -- -- Andreas Neumann Böschacherstrasse 10A 8624 Grüt (Gossau ZH) Switzerland
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