- From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
- Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:18:46 -0400
- To: www-svg@w3.org
- Cc: wai-liaison@w3.org
[note on re-send: as will Will's comments, please consider this material, it reflects a shared concern of the PF WG but has not been discussed in detail. _Mea culpa_ that this got left out of the "collected comments." -Al ] -- original from Chaals: I think this needs a major kick. Although they have the activate event, I couldn't find any mmention of it in the discussion and examples. I think that we should object strongly to the current chapter as is. The following big extract is, I think, problematics. [[[ 13.3 User interface events On user agents which support interactivity, it is common for authors to define SVG documents such that they are responsive to user interface events. Among the set of possible user events are pointer events, keyboard events, and document events. In response to user interface (UI) events, the author might start an animation, perform a hyperlink to another Web page, highlight part of the document (e.g. change the color of the graphics elements which are under the pointer), initiate a "roll-over" (e.g., cause some previously hidden graphics elements to appear near the pointer) or launch a script which communicates with a remote database. For all UI event-related features defined as part of the SVG language via XML Events or animation, the event model corresponds to the event bubbling model described in DOM2 [DOM2-EVBUBBLE]. The event capture model from DOM2 is not supported. 13.4 Pointer events User interface events that occur because of user actions performed on a pointer device are called pointer events. Many systems support pointer devices such as a mouse or trackball. On systems which use a mouse, pointer events consist of actions such as mouse movements and mouse clicks. On systems with a different pointer device, the pointing device often emulates the behavior of the mouse by providing a mechanism for equivalent user actions, such as a button to press which is equivalent to a mouse click. ]]] Many pointer devices do not behave in the same way as a mouse - in particular small devices often do NOT have a cursor which can be moved randomly around the screen, either relying on an element by element navigation, or a pen-type device which is inactive except when it is directly placed on an element. In particular this means that the concept of rollovers, common in HTML where people are expected to be moving around with either the mouse or the keyboard, is a lot less useful and so is a poor example. Neither a pen, nor a voice activation system, have and obvious equivalent to mousedown, and these things are handled in different ways according to the functionality required. The activate event should be more clearly identified as the event triggered by mouse clicks, pen taps, etc, as a default. in the same chapter, 13.7 "Magnifying and Panning" includes [[[ The 'svg' element in an SVG document fragment has attribute zoomAndPan, which takes the possible values of disable and magnify, with the default being magnify. If disable, the user agent shall disable any magnification and panning controls and not allow the user to magnify or pan on the given document fragment. ]]] This should include a note that some user agents and some system software (such as Opera, Mac Operating systems, and the X Window system) allows magnification and panning for accessibility reasons, and these must not be disabled. (Which makes me question the point of the section...) Finally, there is the question of navigating around "active elements" [[[ 13.8.1 The focusable attribute In many cases, such as text editing, the user is required to place focus on a particular element, ensuring that input events, such as keyboard input, are sent to that element. All renderable elements can be focusable, including both container elements and graphics elements,. It is possible for a focusable container element to have focusable descendants. ]]] The first and second paragraphs simply do not go well together. And the first paragraph does not fit with accessibility. Focusable should be applied to any event that has interactive behaviour, and it should be automatically on (according to the rules used - elements which have display:none are, sensibly, unable to receive focus), allowing users to navigate to all such elements. Cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile chaals@opera.com hablo español - je parle français - jeg lærer norsk Here's one we prepared earlier: http://www.opera.com/download
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