- From: Patrick Schmitz <cogit@ludicrum.org>
- Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:45:45 -0800
- To: "TANAKA Kazuhide" <kazuhide@access.co.jp>, <www-smil@w3.org>
Hi - You are right of course, but I think that people can understand this, even if it is technically incorrect. I would tend not to recommend an erratum for this. Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: www-smil-request@w3.org [mailto:www-smil-request@w3.org]On Behalf > Of TANAKA Kazuhide > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:18 AM > To: www-smil@w3.org > Subject: Re: [Q] The min attribute and time container constraints > > > > Hi, > > Thank you very much for your effort. > I could understand behavior of min attribute on time container. > > By the way, I have another question about min attribute. > >From the definition of fill attribute, there is an explanation about > with min attribute: > > The fill attribute is also used to determine the behavior when the > active duration is less than the duration specified in the min > attribute. > > I think it is impossible that active duration is less than min > duration because active duration should be greater or equal to min > duration. > I guess this is not the active duration but the preliminary active > duration (PAD). > > thanks, > > -- > TANAKA Kazuhide > kazuhide@access.co.jp > > > From: "Patrick Schmitz" <cogit@ludicrum.org> > Subject: FW: FW: [Q] The min attribute and time container constraints > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:55:15 -0800 > > > > > Sjoerd and I have talked about this, and agree with the original post. > > > > I further agree with Sjoerd's proposal below to add a fill="freeze" > > attribute to the img element so that the behavior matches the > description. > > > > Thierry - can you write up a new proposed erratum to this effect, and > > circulate it for review? > > > > Thanks - Patrick > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sjoerd Mullender [mailto:sjoerd@acm.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:46 AM > > To: cogit@ludicrum.org > > Cc: Philipp Hoschka > > Subject: Re: FW: [Q] The min attribute and time container constraints > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Patrick Schmitz [mailto:cogit@ludicrum.org] > > > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 9:26 PM > > > To: Sjoerd Mullender > > > Cc: Philipp Hoschka > > > Subject: FW: [Q] The min attribute and time container constraints > > > > > > > > > Hi Sjoerd - > > > > > > I think he's right. Min applies to the active duration, right? We even > > have > > > an example that shows this kind of behavior. See Example 5 under the > > section > > > on min/max within 10.3.1. > > > > > > > min extends the active duration, but with the provision that the fill > > attribute is used to fill the gap. It actually fills the gap after the > > *simple* duration, not the active duration: > > > > "otherwise (repeating/simple duration not greater than min) the element > > is played normally for its repeating duration (or simple duration if the > > element does not repeat) and then is frozen or not shown depending on > > the value of the fill attribute (see the fourth and fifth > examples below)." > > > > So indeed I would say he's right. > > > > In order to fix this, maybe we should add a fill="freeze" to the img. > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: www-smil-request@w3.org [mailto:www-smil-request@w3.org]On Behalf > > Of TANAKA Kazuhide > > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 7:00 PM > > To: www-smil@w3.org > > Cc: kazuhide@access.co.jp > > Subject: [Q] The min attribute and time container constraints > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm reading SMIL 2.0 spec but I could not understand about the min > > attribute and time container constraints. Let me ask you a question. > > > > There is explanation about the min attribute and time container > > constraints as follows: > > > > The min attribute has no effect on the time container constraint on > > child duration. This constraint still applies even if a child's > > active duration does not satisfy a min value constraint. In the > > following example, the image is displayed between 0 and 5 seconds. > > > > <par dur="5s"> > > <img id="img" min="7s" dur="4s" .../> > > </par> > > > > I could not understand this example. Why is img displayed for 5 > > seconds? If no another attributes are specifed, > > > > <img id="img" min="7s" dur="4s" /> > > > > It is displayed between 0 and 4 seconds, then nothing shown till 7 > > seconds because fill behavior should be ragarded as "remove" in this > > situation as default. > > So, in the above example, the expected behavior is: img is displayed > > between 0 and 4 seconds then nothing shown between 4 and 5 seconds. > > > > Is that correct? > > > > thanks, > > > > -- > > TANAKA Kazuhide > > kazuhide@access.co.jp > > > > > -- > Sjoerd Mullender <sjoerd@acm.org> > >
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