- From: Steven Gollery <sgollery@cadrc.calpoly.edu>
- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:46:49 -0800
- To: www-rdf-logic@w3.org
Ian, Thank you for the explanation. I realized after writing the original message that it was basically only a coincidence that the majority of DAML ontologies I was working with were using rdfs:Class: I see now that only some of the ontologies on the list at the DAML site do this and the majority use daml:Class. About your paper: has there been any official response to the idea of using rdfs(fa) to redefine the model for rdf and rdfs? Thanks again, Steve Gollery Ian Horrocks wrote: > On March 15, David Martin writes: > > I think some clarification of this question would be helpful to others of us as > > well. I was eager to read the Pan and Horrocks paper mentioned below, but the URL > > is broken: > > > > Not Found > > The requested URL /jpan/Zhilin/download/Paper/Pan-Horrocks-rdfsfa-2001.pdf was not > > found on this server. > > Apache/1.3.9 Server at imgcs.cs.man.ac.uk Port 80 > > > > Can someone please post a working URL for this paper? > > Sorry, but they just moved to a new server and everything is still a > bit wobbly. You can get the paper from my site on different server: > > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~horrocks/Publications/download/2001/rdfsfa.pdf > > I suppose that while writing I should try to answer Steven's question: > > > > > Thanks, > > > > David > > > > Steven Gollery wrote: > > > > > Please excuse another naive newby question.... > > > > > > In the DAML language definition, it looks like rdfs and rdf are being > > > used as the metamodel: daml:Class, for example, is an instance of > > > rdfs:Class. But if that is the case, I would expect that the Class > > > definitions in a DAML ontology would be instances of daml:Class. > > > Instead, the sample ontologies that I've seen use rdfs:Class either > > > exclusively or (as far as I can tell) interchangeably with daml:Class. > > You are right that in many cases rdf is being used as the "metamodel" > (i.e., to describe the DAML+OIL language itself), but things are a > little confused as some parts of rdf are used directly in DAML+OIL, > e.g., range and domain, subClassOf. > > > > > > > I understand from the Pan and Horrocks paper at > > > http://img.cs.man.ac.uk/jpan/Zhilin/download/Paper/Pan-Horrocks-rdfsfa-2001.pdf > > > that there is a layering problem in the RDF/RDF(S) definition that > > > prevents a clean division between successive metamodel levels. Is the > > > relationship between rdfs:Class and daml:Class somehow connected to > > > this? > > More or less. The extension of a DAML+OIL class should be a set of > individuals (well, strictly a set of objects that are denoted by > individual names) and not, say, a set of properties, as could be the > case for an rdfs:Class. Because of the lack of layering in the rdf > architecture there is no way to enforce this, so daml:Class is just a > label given to the subset of rdfs:Classes that have the property we > want. Note that in the daml+oil-ex.daml file, daml:Class is used > extensively. Also note that many of the "meta" properties in the daml > language definition have daml:Class as a range/domain so that classes > used in daml ontology will often be implicitly of type daml:Class. > > > > > > > I suppose all I'm really asking is: when would I use rdfs:Class and when > > > would I use daml:Class? And if it doesn't matter, why are there two of > > > them? > > Always use daml:Class. I hope I explained why there are two. > > Ian > > > > > > > Thanks for your patience, > > > > > > Steven Gollery
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