- From: Uche Ogbuji <uche.ogbuji@fourthought.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:51:29 -0600
- To: Jon Hanna <jon@hackcraft.net>
- Cc: www-rdf-interest@w3.org
Adrian Walker: > > So, what's needed? I'd argue that our discussions about web > > proper names > > and URIs can never converge to something computationally > > useful, unless we > > broaden the frame of discussion to bring in natural language > > processing. In particular, a solid way of computationally > > linking RDF and > > English, in both directions, would do the trick. Jon Hanna: > I disagree. One of the benefits of using URIs is that they can have > precision that isn't easily available in NLP even when that NLP is > performed by the human brain (which seems to do an okay job in this > regard most of the time). Working out what "set" means is a lot more > complicated than working out what ISBN:0321185781 means. URIs are closer > to the latter than the former. I also agree with Adrian, but on different grounds. URIs in RDF are precise because they are exactly what they are: a string with lexical rules, which can be processed. That is not the same "precise" as a natural language precise. URIs are no more "precise" for NL than any other terminological system. What does the following mean: http://www.w3.org ? No computer can tell me that. That's why URIs should be atomic and *people* should decide what they mean. RDF shouldn't care. RDF's job is "duh h duh t duh t duh p duh colon... yup. thats the resource yer asked for, sir". Does http://uche.ogbuji.net mean the person, the Web site, the 404 page that comes up if the Web site goes down? An abstract quartum quid variation of one of these? Don't ask the computer: it will *never* be able to tell you (well, not until we're so many AI generations down the road that I can cut off the likelihood with Occam's razor). Ask thy neighbor. Then clout him one when you disagree with what he says. That's the way symbols work. That's the way communication works. That had better be the way SemWeb works, or it will be crushed under the weight of its own ambition. -- Uche Ogbuji Fourthought, Inc. http://uche.ogbuji.net http://4Suite.org http://fourthought.com A hands-on introduction to ISO Schematron - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/x-dw-xschematron-i.html Wrestling HTML (using Python) - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2004/09/08/pyxml.html XML circles the globe - http://www.javareport.com/article.asp?id=9797 Principles of XML design: Considering container elements - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-contain.html Hacking XML Hacks - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-think26.html A survey of XML standards - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-stand4/
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