- From: <peter.smolle@netdynamics-tech.com>
- Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:11:39 GMT
- To: Nick Gibbins <nmg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Miltiadis Lytras <mdl@eltrun.gr>
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Nick, Miltiadis,
I like this kind of discussion which probably was the same when the
railroad invention passed the horses !
To be more serious let me add some personal thoughts:
1. There is an enourmous business need for solutions which are based on
semantic web technologies
In essence the business need is for:
- semantic based integration / interoperation of systems which shall
enable an "on demand integration" capability,
(you can call this a "super TIBCO and similar" solution).
A solution for this problem would tackle in minimum 20% of the IT
budget spending of today
- semantic based search for information on the web , you can call this
the "ONE QUESTION > ONE ANSWER" capability
(name it a "Super Google and similar" solution)
A solution for this problem would influence the search and
e-business behaviour of most of the WEB users of today significantely
2. Giving this the discussion if semantic web ist "it" or not is a
discussion which is valid, but to my judgement cannot be discussed on the
XML PROLOG,
HYPERTEXT etc. level only because this would be a discussion on the
parts of the iceberg which is under the water only.
3. The direction I would appreciate the discussion to go, or at least I
would see value add in,is on
HOW and WHAT are we doing in research to approach the needed solutions
for the two items named in point 1
WHEN could we tell potential SW vendors, customers , companies that
the base for a solution will be there
I see lots of efforts going in this direction,and I think this problem and
the solution for ,is at least one magnitude
more complex than the build up of the Web (which IS a prerequesit, of
course) .
Giving the enormous economical impact and benfit of those named "Semantic
Web Based Solutions " I would encourage "us"
to focus our brightness more toward this for sure rewarding goal.
regards
Peter
Peter F. Smolle
Net Dynamics Internet Technologies
www.netdynamics-tech.com
Nick Gibbins
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16.06.2004 18:42 Subject: [ontoweb-list] Re: A discussion: Is semantic web an old
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Miltiadis Lytras wrote:
> 1. In 6 years time with ZERO hype and an insignificant
> amount of funding, the WWW evolved from a couple
> of lonely programmers to Netscape and the essential
> features of what we see on the web today.
> 2. In 6 years (1998 to 2004) with ENORMOUS hype and
> funding, the semantic web has evolved from Tim BL's
> book to a few prototype applications, which are less
> advanced than technologies of the 1970s such as SQL,
> Prolog, and expert systems -- and they're doing it
> with XML, which is far less advanced than LISP,
> which was developed in the 1950s.
While I have some sympathy with his cautious attitude towards the Semantic
Web, Sowa misses the rich history of hypertext systems that the WWW draws
on. A different characterisation of the growth of the Web might be:
1. In 6 years (1989 to 1995) with some hype and not
insignificant EU and US funding, the WWW evolved from
Tim BL's original proposal to a widespread but simple
system which is less advanced in certain ways than
previous hypermedia systems, such as the Hypertext
Editing System, Xanadu, NLS, OWL-Guide and Hypercard
--
Nick Gibbins nmg@ecs.soton.ac.uk
IAM (Intelligence, Agents, Multimedia) tel: +44 (0) 23 80598347
Electronics and Computer Science fax: +44 (0) 23 80592865
University of Southampton
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