- From: Jos De_Roo <jos.deroo@agfa.com>
- Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:34:44 +0100
- To: "Graham Klyne <gk" <gk@ninebynine.org>
- Cc: "Chris Bizer" <chris@bizer.de>, "Jeremy Carroll" <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, www-rdf-interest@w3.org
> At 14:11 20/12/03 +0100, Jos De_Roo wrote: > >> Assuming (-- taken from Tarski) >> >> == >> Whenever, in a sentence, we wish to say something about >> a certain thing, we have to use, in this sentence, not >> the thing itself but its *name* or *designation*. >> (this is also the case when the thing talked about >> happens to be a word or a symbol) >> >> Every expression should differ (at least in writing) >> from its *name*. >> >> Forming the *name* of an expression can be done by placing >> it between quotation marks. >> >> The same thing can have many different *names*. >> == >> >> and assuming N3's { and } as quotation marks > > That (i.e. assuming N3's { and } as quotation marks) is one possible > approach, but not one that I like. My thoughts (somewhat incomplete) are at: > http://www.ninebynine.org/RDFNotes/UsingContextsWithRDF.html > >> then we at least have one of the different means >> for naming graphs. >> >> >> I understand your example >> >> ID => { < a, b, c > >> < a1, b1, c1 > >> < a2, b2, c2 > } >> >> ID => { < a3, b3, c3 > } >> >> as giving 1 name to 2 *different* things which I guess >> was not the intention and which is bad of course. > > That's not my intention, and it's not what I do. > > In my case, I treat this as defining: > > ID => { < a, b, c > > < a1, b1, c1 > > < a2, b2, c2 > > < a3, b3, c3 > } > > Part of the rationale is based on the equivalence with the quad approach, > but you have reminded me that this is a *choice* I made, not an inevitable > consequence. right > BTW, in N3, what do you think this means?: > > :id :- { :a :b :c . > :a1 :b1 :c1 . > :a2 :b2 :c2 . } > > :id :- { :a3 :b3 :c3 . } > > (all in a single document.) I really don't know and have seen that ":-" only once before (in one of your mails) but can't find it in http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3 nor in http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/grammar/n3-report >> I've never felt the need for more than {triples} names; >> those names are written on documents which have URI's >> and those URI's are the pivotal points. > > Er, I'm not following you here We *call* some-set-of-triples in 2 different ways 1/ either as { some-set-of-triples-in-notation3 } 2/ or as <uri-of-some-set-of-triples>.log:semantics All that is written in particular documents which are URI identified and so we can explicitly and precisely load that in engines. There is a means to show what was loaded and thus trusted. -- Jos De Roo, AGFA http://www.agfa.com/w3c/jdroo/
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