- From: Gabe Beged-Dov <begeddov@jfinity.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:23:07 -0800
- To: Sergey Melnik <melnik@db.stanford.edu>
- CC: Jonathan Borden <jborden@mediaone.net>, ML RDF-interest <www-rdf-interest@w3c.org>
Sergey Melnik wrote: > > Jonathan Borden wrote: > > > > Sergey Melnik wrote: <snip /> > > By merging into one, do you mean drop the notion of statement > > reification? If a statement and a reified statement are the same thing, I'm > > sure loads of people would prefer forget reification exists. > > Don't drop reification, it's heavy ;) I'd rather make it a lightweight > built-in feature by explicitly making every statement a resource. I hope others will weigh in here but it seems clear that there is a difference between the statement (member of Statements) and the reified statement in the model. This is used to distinguish between stating and quoting as others have said. It is explicitly part of the specification. How do you track quotings, i.e. the reification resource is explicitly present in the data source but the ground statement is not? I empathize with the desire to make reification lightweight but I see replacing the triple with a quad (ReificationResource, subject, predicate, object) in the _implementation_ as being a good candidate for this. The quad represents the resource of type RDF:Statement (I'll just say RDF:Statement from hereon in as short-hand for the resource of type RDF:Statement) that needs to be generated for every statement that occurs in the source document (according to the spec). There also needs to be a way to distinguish between the quoting RDF:Statements and stating RDF:Statements. I see two ways of doing this. One is to encode the information in the URI of the RDF:Statement. This will still not work in the case that the data source is explicitly creating both stating and quoting reification resources. The second way is to add information, either in-band in the model, or out of band in the implementation. I tend to prefer the in-band approach since it allows the information to standardized across implementations. As an example of this, I can imagine that a processor would generate additional bags hanging off of the top level resource representing the data source that would capture information like which RDF:Statements were quotings. <snip /> > > > The M&S spec clearly states that statements are *non-atomic* entities in > > > the RDF model, i.e. they have 3 identifiable parts. Why then getting > > > into trouble of defining another mechanism ("quad reification") for > > > identifying these same parts in a less efficient (in all senses) manner? > > > > In order to assign a URI to a triple. > > Why not make it computable if necessary (Skolem)? Can save a lot of > space... I haven't looked at your more recent work, but my impression was that the function required a complete model and could require a recalculation of the ID whenever statements were added or removed. Is this the case? <snip /> > Sergey Gabe -- --------------------------- http://www.jfinity.com/gabe
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