RE: SIMILE PI phone conference, 26-Sep-03 1200 EDT/1700 BST

Hi Paul

As your paper correctly notes, there is a huge difference between metadata
that describes how we might use a resource and metadata that describes a
resource. As you note, metadata of the first group is potentially infinite,
and limited by the ingenuity of the creator. 

For example, imagine the same picture and associated descriptive metadata
being used in three learning objects: 

- one describes the history of the painting, 
- the second tries to demonstrate capturing metadata for metadata's sake
without a clear use case is very likely to be futile, 
- whereas the third includes the picture for no other reason than the author
thought it was a nice picture and when combined with a Latin quotation would
impress learners with the scholarly nature of the LOM. 

Devising a mapping scheme that can map between these three different uses is
likely to be impossible.  

The problem we face here is IMS is a "use" metadata schema for an
educational context, whereas VRA is a descriptive metadata schema. So its
very hard to re-use the "use" metadata, we just end up throwing away most of
the IMS metadata and just using the "descriptive" bit. Even then, its hard
to map one on to the other. 

kind regards,

Dr Mark H. Butler
Research Scientist                HP Labs Bristol
mark-h_butler@hp.com
Internet: http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/marbut/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Shabajee [mailto:paul.shabajee@bristol.ac.uk]
> Sent: 26 September 2003 22:47
> To: SIMILE public list
> Subject: Re: SIMILE PI phone conference, 26-Sep-03 1200 EDT/1700 BST
> 
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> A quick follow up from the PI meeting today - realised the 
> discussion about
> IMS/IEEE LOM mark-up of images, reflects some of the 
> motivation behind an
> article I wrote a while back for D-Lib. It is basically about 
> the problem of
> marking-up images (still and moving) so that they are 
> accessible by users
> from multiple disciplines...
> 
> Primary Multimedia Objects and 'Educational Metadata': A 
> Fundamental Dilemma
> for Developers of Multimedia Archives
> 
> http://www.dlib.org/dlib/june02/shabajee/06shabajee.html
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bass, Mick" <mick.bass@hp.com>
> To: "SIMILE public list" <www-rdf-dspace@w3.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:45 PM
> Subject: SIMILE PI phone conference, 26-Sep-03 1200 EDT/1700 BST
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> 
> 
> SIMILE PI phone conference, 26-Sep-03 1200 EDT/1700 BST
> 
> 866-639-4752 or +1-574-935-6705
> PIN: 2536617
> 
> irc://irc.w3.org:6665/simile
> 
> 1/ Logistics of this call, date & time
> 
> 2/ Plenary logistics, save the date
> November 11, 12, and/or 13
> mick regrets - is this workable?
> 
> 3/ Update on progress on getting corpus data
>    (MacKenzie Smith, Eric Miller)
> 
> 4/ John Gilbert, wrapup presentation
> 
> 5/ Discussion of issues raised by the demo script
> Esp. Mark's previously posted note:
> "Does the script highlight a potential mismatch between
> typical metadata records for diverse vocabularies and
> the conceptual models required to search between
> diverse vocabularies" - Mark Butler
> 
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