- From: Kevin Smathers <kevin.smathers@hp.com>
- Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:43:32 -0700
- To: "Butler, Mark" <Mark_Butler@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Cc: "'www-rdf-dspace@w3.org'" <www-rdf-dspace@w3.org>
Butler, Mark wrote:
>Hi Kevin
>
>
>
>>It is sometimes very difficult to talk about this without sounding
>>absurd, but consider the following if you can. Suppose there is a
>>school of the occult that teaches that every soul goes
>>through multiple
>>incarnations, and just for the sake of argument, let's
>>suppose that they
>>had through some divine means determined that J.S. Bach, and Elvis
>>happened to be the same person (qua soul). So they diligently enter
>>that 'fact' into their database. While that representation
>>undoubtably
>>might have value to the school of the occult, it is unlikely
>>that most
>>other schools would have any use for that information. Clearly, even
>>though the epistemological systems interact, they must not
>>inadvertently
>>pollute the other systems. The decision of the occult school to join
>>together those records should be available but ignored unless you are
>>working in the context of the occult.
>>
>>My argument is that things like this occur to a lesser degree all the
>>time. Equivalence shouldn't be expressed by multiple classification
>>because it is too final; rather equivalence should be expressed by
>>indexing where the index can be maintained by the
>>organizations that are
>>interested.
>>
>>
>
>Okay, I understand what you are saying now, I think I can paraphrase it:
>
>"When we denote equivalence between two objects, there is an advantage in
>keeping the equivalent objects separate, because this means it is possible
>to reify the equivalence relation."
>
>So yes, you are right, this approach does have a potential advantage.
>
>As I've said before, I don't like RDF's current approach to reification, I
>would prefer to see it explicitly adopt a quads based approach, but even
>then keeping equivalent object separate is helpful, as we can use different
>provenance URIs to denote the provenance of the metadata about the first
>object, provenance of the metadata about the second object, and provenance
>of the metadata about the relation, so in your example we might trust our
>information about JS Bach and Elvis, but not the information that indicates
>they are the same person.
>
>
Exactly. If you multiclass an instance it has to be 'correct', but
equivalence as expressed through a third party only has to be useful,
not necessarily correct. 'Useful but not necessarily correct' is in my
mind the basis for web style (serendipitous) data re-use.
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