- From: David R. Karger <karger@theory.lcs.mit.edu>
- Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:50:50 -0400
- To: ks@micky.hpl.hp.com
- CC: john.erickson@hp.com, www-rdf-dspace@w3.org
Well, as a particular example, consider the drag and drop metaphor.
In haystack, huge amounts of information is input to the system this
way (eg, user drags "person" object onto "author" region of a
document; system records that person as author of that document).
This may well be possible to set up in javascript, but I suspect it is
only the tip of the iceberg.
If we do feel forced to use a web browser paradigm, we may be able to
get some way just by generating pictures of the haystack UI and using
imagemaps to catch user clicks, but this is really just a poor man's
X-server.
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Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:08:59 -0700
From: Kevin Smathers <ks@micky.hpl.hp.com>
Cc: john.erickson@hp.com, www-rdf-dspace@w3.org
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On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 01:05:21AM -0400, David R. Karger wrote:
> Still this is the first suggestion I've seen that the Haystack
> client would be used with Simile. My impression was rather that
> the Haystack UI would be ported, minus the client, using a Web UI
> interface.
>
> It's a bit questionable where the haystack UI ends and the client
> begins. Certainly the maximum power of haystack is achieved by the
> full system. Arguably, there is some value to using some of the
> haystack "back end" (learning agents, etc) to record and adapt to user
> interactions directed through a web browser. But a web browser is
> really quite a limited interface; we'll get a lot more power using the
> full haystack UI.
Can you expand on this a bit? What is the power of Haystack that would
have no analogue if mapped to a browser interface? Is that power something
that we want users to have? If it is then is it something that could be
mapped through a separate transaction with the application server rather
than making it a part of the primary interface?
What is it that you are worried that the system won't be able to do if
the client is a browser?
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