- From: BASS,MICK (HP-USA,ex1) <mick_bass@hp.com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:35:24 -0700
- To: www-rdf-dspace@w3.org
Attached are minutes from the SIMILE PI Telephone conference held on
2002-07-26. These are also available at
http://web.mit.edu/dspace-dev/www/simile/.
Please let me know if I've misrepresented anything, and review open
actions!!
Enjoy,
- Mick
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SIMILE PI Telephone Conference
2002-07-26
Summary, Actions, and Issues
Editor: Mick Bass, HP mailto:bass@alum.mit.edu
This document:
http://web.mit.edu/dspace-dev/www/simile/minutes/minutes-2002-07-26.txt
Series:
http://web.mit.edu/dspace-dev/www/simile/minutes/index.html
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Table of Contents
Agenda
Attendees
Summary
New Actions / Issues
Open Actions / Issues
Closed Actions / Issues
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Agenda (as revised)
0. Review agenda
1. Review open actions & issues. See
<http://web.mit.edu/dspace-dev/www/simile/minutes/minutes-2002-07-11.txt>
...progress & status ...get a sense for priorities ...confirm
Aug 14 face to face (reserve others?)
2. Review recent N-way interactions: kenzie/karger re: cataloging
workflow bass/karger/kenzie re: RDF history bitstreams
bass/karger/reynolds/quan re: jena in haystack
3. Tee up essential offline (independent, 2-way, 3-way) work
4. New issues & actions Discussion review proposed methodology
review deliverables in startup phase working process for
remainder of startup phase use case / demonstrator hone &
brainstorm
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Attendees (all via phone)
David Karger (PI) MIT, LCS / AI Lab Eric Miller (Co-I) W3C Mick
Bass HP Labs
Not Attending: MacKenzie Smith (Co-I) MIT, Libraries (UK Trip)
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Summary
The call was consumed by agenda items 1 & 2 (review open actions and
issues, and recent N-way interactions). Highlights summarized here.
+ IPR Framework
bass: recent meeting with Pat Greer @ OSP - Pat has set up a
meeting with MIT attorneys to sift through prior IP
encumbrances, and their potential impact in this situation.
karger: Rod Brooks looking into NTT stuff, thinks will work ok
em: from standpoint of enabling technologies, simplest way
forward is if everything that we're doing IP-wise is "royalty
free"
bass: maybe oxygen can offer a suitable IPR framework
em: SWAD Europe has IPR framework that may be useful
(royalty-free and open-source)
-> Action Eric (SWAD verbage)
-> one-liners wrt IPR positioning leading to royalty-free
+ discussion on each of the following. see updates below.
I7 (METS::RDF),
A9 (sample RDF History data),
A10 (observe libraries cataloging workflow)
+ August 14 works for next PI face to face meeting in Cambridge
(karger, bass, em). bass to confirm with kenzie.
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NEW Actions (A) / Issues (I)
ref owner summary
----|--------|---------
A20 bass, clarify DSpace / SIMILE relationship.
kenzie Need a statement / context diagram that we can post
publicly.
A21 em + Forward essential terms of SWAD Europe IPR framework,
for consideration / applicability in SIMILE environment
+ Forward helpful one-liners wrt IPR positioning
in support of / leading to a royalty-free IPR position.
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OPEN Actions (A) / Issues (I) [in rough priority order]
ref owner summary
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progress / status
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I11 all, Strengthen, capture, review: driving/focusing scenarios for
bass use, and relationship to methodology phases.
A8 bass PI forum for Kenzie to present and all to discuss unmet
metadata and information interoperability needs from
MIT Libraries perspective
A13 all follow through with requested paperwork to OSP ASAP after
receiving it. We need contracts to close by end of July
if at all possible.
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July close appears unlikely, yet need to keep process
moving remains.
A21 em + Forward essential terms of SWAD Europe IPR framework,
for consideration / applicability in SIMILE environment
+ Forward helpful one-liners wrt IPR positioning
in support of / leading to a royalty-free IPR position.
A16 bass confirm August 14 Cambridge with all PIs
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works for em and karger. Mick to confirm with kenzie.
A20 bass, clarify DSpace / SIMILE relationship.
kenzie Need a statement / context diagram that we can post
publicly.
A12 all, Brainstorm, scope, (within available resources), and plan to
deliver a simple yet compelling demonstrator by end of
startup phase.
A9 miller, gather & distribute to PIs RDF corpuses for
kenzie, (1) DSpace History and (2) Barton Library Catalog
bass
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tar of RDF history bitstreams in hand.
need bass/kenzie policy conversation.
2002-08-14 update: have MIT Libs policy, ready for handoff
I7 kenzie, relationship METS :: RDF
miller
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em willing to spend energy here.
mets -> closed world?
motivation: functionality/capabilities of METS coupled with
openness, flexibility of RDF. RDFS for METS?
A1 karger summarize test case / requirements on Jena for use in
haystack
... re-use cholesterol?
but not hardened
memory resident only - won't scale
... hope jena to get karger team out of database work
... root cause between sleepycat/Jena and cholesterol
... simple mods to existing Jena DB backends
action Karger & Bass (serialize) -> profiling
I2 karger should cholesterol become an alternative RDB implementation
for Jena?
I3 karger could/should Adenine be bundled with Jena?
I6 erickson what is CNRI position regarding registration of handle
system
as a URI scheme with IANA?
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CLOSED Actions (A) / Issues (I)
ref owner summary
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resolution
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A14 bass followup with Lissa Natkin, LCS
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met 2002-07-17, communication established and remains open.
A15 bass send www-rdf-dspace subscribe instructions to all PIs
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sent.
A19 bass consolidate and make available meeting presentation
materials
and other useful resources
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here they are! also set up SIMILE project web page.
A17 all provide non-available times to bass for weekly PI phone call
A18 bass identify time for weekly PI phone call
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Weekly call identified: Fridays at 2pm Eastern.
May need to revisit after classes resume.
A4 bass, followup Quan's "Jena in Haystack" note with Dennis
karger and Jena team
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sent to Jena team
I5 kenzie, relationship DSpace Format Registry :: Mime Type open issues
miller in W3C Technical Architecture Group
- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#w3cMediaType-1
- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#customMediaType-2
- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#nsMediaType-3
- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#uriMediaType-9
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close per em, having shared info
A10 karger, haystack team pairwise w/ kenzie & library staff to scope
kenzie UI reqs for library catalogers / "semantic annotators"
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Karger update: watched simple "cataloging a book" steps.
lots of flipping back and forth...
idea: haystack UI to present in one place all info needed
to catalog a book, and allow input of reqd data.
OCLC data comes back in terminal interface
No RDF version of MARC
xml-schema for MARC - but not flattened
action -> meet reference librarians? (much harder...)
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Mick Bass
External Engagement Manager
HP Labs / MIT DSpace Program
Hewlett-Packard Company
Building 10-500 MIT, 77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139-4307
617.253.6617 office 617.452.3000 fax
617.899.3938 mobile 617.627.9694 residence
bass@alum.mit.edu mick_bass@hp.com
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