- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:28:20 +0100
- To: Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
- Cc: "Hausenblas, Michael" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>, Ben Adida <ben@adida.net>, RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>, SWD WG <public-swd-wg@w3.org>, www-qa@w3.org
- Message-ID: <45D30E74.7060209@w3.org>
+1 Steven Pemberton wrote: > > I want to reraise my position: leave class alone, and use something new > for what we want. I still have the feeling that @role can do the job. > > Steven > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:56:52 +0100, Hausenblas, Michael > <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at> wrote: > >> >> Ben, >> I do support your proposal as this is an important issue - sometimes >> also called triple bloat - not _only_ mentioned by TimBL ;) >> Indeed this was one of the things I had in mind when contemplating >> about levels [1]. Not only the subset of RDF we aim to support with >> RDFa may go into a level, but also the way we interpret the attributes. >> Say, we have two levels: strict (interpreting only attributes _with_ NS) >> and verbose (taking _all_ attributes as input to generate an RDF graph. >> Note: This could go into a profile definition as well IMHO - >> Karl, any comments? >> Cheers, >> Michael >> [1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/#sec4 >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Michael Hausenblas, MSc. >> Institute of Information Systems & Information Management >> JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH >> Steyrergasse 17, A-8010 Graz, AUSTRIA >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: public-swd-wg-request@w3.org on behalf of Ben Adida >> Sent: Tue 2007-02-13 21:06 >> To: RDFa; SWD WG >> Subject: [RDFa] The CLASS attribute >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> (also following up from our telecon) >> >> So we have agreed to use the CLASS attribute as syntactic sugar for >> rdf:type. That works really nicely in all of our examples, but it >> creates a lot of "local triples" in your average HTML. I know we've >> argued many times that it doesn't matter in terms of machine processing, >> but the point is that this is a really bad unexpected outcome for many >> users, including TimBL. >> >> So I have a proposal: we keep using CLASS, but RDFa provides triples >> only for namespaced CLASSes. I know we've talked about just "turning off >> local triples" in the parser as a way to get over the bad first >> impression that people have, but I think we need to go further than >> that: TimBL pointed to an example that can really get confusing: >> >> <div class="notice" about="#me"> >> blah blah blah >> </div> >> >> gives: >> >> <#me> rdf:type notice >> >> No matter how you look at it, that's semantically wrong. >> >> We need to make sure that only explicit classes become types, and the >> easiest way to do that is to require scoped classes. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -Ben >> >> >> >> > > > -- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ PGP Key: http://www.cwi.nl/%7Eivan/AboutMe/pgpkey.html FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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