Minutes QA WG Telecon 2002-10-02

QA Working Group Teleconference
Wednesday, 02-10-2002
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Scribe: Dominique Hazael-Massieux

Attendees:
(dd) Dimitris Dimitriadis (Ontologicon)
(KD) Karl Dubost (W3C, WG co-chair)
(HF) Henri Fallon (W3C - Webmaster)
(DH) Dominique Hazael-Massieux (W3C)
(LH) Lofton Henderson (CGMO - WG co-chair)
(DM) David Marston (IBM)
(OT) Olivier Thereaux (W3C)

Regrets:
(KG) Kirill Gavrylyuk (Microsoft)
(LR) Lynne Rosenthal (NIST - IG co-chair)
(MS) Mark Skall (NIST)
(SM) Sandra Martinez (NIST)
(JM) Jack Morrison (Sun)

Absent: 
(PF) Peter Fawcett (RealNetworks)
(AT) Andrew Thackrah (Open Group)

Summary of New Action Items: 
None

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2002Oct/0009.html
Previous Telcon Minutes:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2002Oct/0002.html [Draft]

Minutes: 
QA WG participation and future
The first discussion went around the low level of participation in the
QA WG: we're only 11 official WG members, and among them, some can only
participate in a limited way because of external constraints.
Karl proposes to advertise the QA Activity during the AC Meeting, but
Dimitris points that we might want to have a more radical approach, esp.
underlining that the work we're doing is going to be mandatory at some
point. He'd like the W3C Team to stress this as much as possible.
Olivier points that the W3C QA Activity has got a lot of consideration
lately in the W3C Management Team, and that getting help on this should
be fairly easy.
It also appears that behind the "stick" approach, the "carrot" one would
be to show all the benefits the QA WG can bring to other WG; for
instance, a test assertion markup and testing tools would certainly be a
good showcase.
Lofton proposes to add this topic and the broader one of the WG's future
at the QA F2F Agenda, since it's quite important and would benefit from
a F2F time.
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Logistics in Tokyo
Olivier confirms that everything is in order for the upcoming F2F in
Tokyo, where Henri will attend to participate both to a QA Team F2F and
the QA WG one.
All that people needs to know is available on the F2F logistics page
[1].
Would anyone need Olivier's phone number to ask for help in case of
problems, Olivier is ready to give it on private email
(mailto:ot@w3.org).

1. http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/10/f2f
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Tokyo's agenda
Since a new and possibly big agenda item has been proposed on the WG's
future, the question of where to put it in the agenda arises.
Lofton thinks that this item is important enough to remove some other
items, maybe some part of test GL or some demos. Dimitris would rather
not make his demos than not work on Test Assertion Markup and the Test
Group Topic.
Lofton stresses that demos are an important part of the meeting, since
they are the first bit of our substantive work for a potential Test task
force , but agrees that we might cut some of them. The idea of
off-schedule meetings arises as well, allowing for more time on small
groups.
The WG is invited to send suggestions on a possible agenda
reorganization.

Lofton then asks if there should be a more detailled agenda than the one
already sent [2], as it was the case in Montreal. He proposes to take a
look at the Spec GL issues and prioritize them and asks Dimitris to
detail what he would like to see discussed in "his" 2 items, the QA WG
survey on authoring technologies and the Test task force. Lofton hopes
that Kirill will post his refinements on the Test GL discussion agenda
item.

2. http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/10/f2f#agenda

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Adjourned
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Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - http://www.w3.org/People/Dom/
W3C/INRIA
mailto:dom@w3.org