- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:48:15 -0400 (EDT)
- To: <scott_boag@us.ibm.com>
- cc: <spec-prod@w3.org>, <w3c-query-editors@w3.org>, <www-qa@w3.org>
Hi, yes, the WAI Evaluation and Repair tools group has experimented to the extent of developing an RDF framework and having tools that use it. The framework is called EARL, and there is some introductory information at http://www.w3.org/2001/03/earl (but that is a bit out of date now) and more information linked from the ER group page http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER It turns out that we need to have a couple of things - one is a way of describing what the test is (we use a URI to refer to it - in the initial use case of WAI specifications that was OK because there were specific checkpoints with URIs) and another is enough logic to make compound statements such as "because X passes requirements Z and Q it passes requirement F" (where there is some description that says "passing (x or Y or Z) and [(P or Q) or (A and B)] implies passing requirement F"). There are a couple of pieces of software dealing with this now. cheers Charles McCN On Mon, 6 May 2002 scott_boag@us.ibm.com wrote: A colleague and I have been talking about how to do more precise testing of W3C specifications, and how the specification markup might help. GOALS: Allow an external document (test case, erratum, email, etc.) to point directly at a "testable" normative sentence in a Recommendation. Encourage document editors to view some of the sentences as "test assertions" and to write them in a style that conveys precisely what they declare. Explore possibilities for machine processing of testable sentences in the future. Link error assertions to error catalogues (see the work that Mike Kay is doing with the XSLT document: ( http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt20/#error-summary)). Provide a tagging scheme for testing of grammatical statements, such as the ad-hoc one employed in the XPath/XQuery specifications. Possibly provide markup also for discretionary behavior. So our proposal is to add a tagging structure to http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/06/xmlspec-report.htm, http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/06/xmlspec.dtd, that allows editors to achieve the above goals. Test cases will nearly always have to cite more than one testable sentence and/or production, unless the Rec is issued with test assertions in a separate appendix. We should experiment with enhanced tagging to see how it influences sentence structure. Some complex sentences with multiple "or" parts crossing each other may get restructured just to make citing them more precise. Consider this sentence from part 16.4 of XSLT 1.0: "Thus, it is an error to disable output escaping for an xsl:value-of or xsl:text element that is used to generate the string-value of a comment, processing instruction or attribute node; it is also an error to convert a result tree fragment to a number or a string if the result tree fragment contains a text node for which escaping was disabled." That one sentence has 8-10 testable assertions. So far, we are not proposing concrete details. First we wanted to see what people thought of the idea, if anyone has experimented with something like this so far, and whether or not this would be worth a concrete proposal. -scott -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +33 4 92 38 78 22 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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