- From: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
- Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:45:36 -0600
- To: www-qa-wg@w3.org
Please send comments or corrections... ========== QA Working Group FINAL Teleconference Wednesday, 12-September-2005 -- Scribe: Lofton Attendees: (TB) Tim Boland (NIST) (PC) Patrick Curran (Sun Microsystems) (DD) Dimitris Dimitriadis (Ontologicon) (KD) Karl Dubost (W3C, Chair) (DH) Dominique Hazaël-Massieux (W3C) (LH) Lofton Henderson (CGMO) (RK) Richard Kennedy (Boeing) Regrets: (LR) Lynne Rosenthal (NIST) (MS) Mark Skall (NIST) Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2005Sep/0011.html Previous Telcon Minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2005Aug/0094.html Actions: 20050912-1 -- Patrick will send final "Test Metadata" to Karl today. 20050912-2 -- Lofton will comment to Karl today about "normative language" changes in "Conformance Clause Template." 20050912-3 -- Karl will try to get "Test Metadata" published on Wednesday. 20050912-4 -- Karl will finish up with getting IG re-chartered, soon. >2.) Routine Business > Lead: Karl Dubost > - QA Primer (Graphics) Done, published. http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/qaframe-primer > - QA Handbook published Done, published. http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-qa-handbook-20050906/ >3.) Test Case Model [1] > Lead: Patrick Curran > > - Editing Work Editing was done and circulated to QAWG by PC. Comments were sent to the QAWG mailing list be PC, RK, DM, TB. > - Request for publication and shortname on Wednesday. KD to try to publish "Test Metadata" on Wednesday. Reviewing comments of DM. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2005Sep/0018.html Clarify "constrained text", for "Purpose". DM--e.g., a short-length constraint. Xpointer as an example? Some concern about using that as primary example, as Xpointer is not widely used. PC will try to come up with another example as primary example, e.g., link to markup/anchors in spec text. Preconditions? PC has misgivings about the suggestion for counter-examples, "..not a precondition". PC defined precondition, "Test will not run unless this condition is met." Versioning? After discussion, decided to keep it and incorporate DM's comments as an issue to be flagged in the document. PC: We should be clear that this metadata is about individual tests / test cases, not about the test suite as a whole. PC will clarify in Introduction. Reviewing comments of TB: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2005Sep/0020.html Test vs Test Case. PC will clarify in TestFAQ. Drop "test case" in favor of "test". Further discussion that the terms ought to be defined in the QA Glossary (all of 'em should be in the glossary, since "test case" has extensive history in QAWG, e.g., in TCDL; but have the glossary deprecate "test case" in favor of "test"?) Suggestion to drop word "conformance". Agreed. "Objective evidence of benefit." Conclusion: Test metadata is almost universal practice, of varying degrees of quality and completeness. We're codifying and suggesting best practice guidance. PC will add some sentences to that effect. Next: PC will collect today's changes, and editorial changes, and send to KD to implement in the spec. >4.) Conformance Clause Template [2] > Lead: Karl Dubost > > - Added requirements of Lofton Done, KD has implemented LH changes. > - CSS Problem Still have IE problem. LH to review "normative language" changes. >5.) QA IG Rechartering > Lead: Karl Dubost W3M didn't discuss it last week. Will do so soon. KD: Since we have no more work, do we want to close the WG now, before the re-chartering of IG? Decision: anticipate to close as soon as current pending publications (only "Test Metadata"?) happen. TB: what are participant commitment requirements for being active in the (new) IG? KD: none, but you will have to sign up for the new IG. LH: Staff time commitment? KD: 10% of Karl. Next anticipated telecon will be in 2 weeks, as a (new) QAIG telecon. This is the last QAWG telecon. Adjourned: 11:58 EDT.
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