- From: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:42:21 -0600
- To: "'www-qa-wg@w3.org'" <www-qa-wg@w3.org>
QA Working Group Teleconference
Monday, 13 June 2005
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Scribe: Lofton
Attendees:
(KD) Karl Dubost (W3C, Chair)
(DH) Dominique Hazaël-Massieux (W3C)
(LH) Lofton Henderson (CGMO)
(RK) Richard Kennedy (Boeing)
(MS) Mark Skall (NIST)
(LR) Lynne Rosenthal (NIST)
(DM) David Marston (guest, IBM)
Regrets:
(PC) Patrick Curran (Sun Microsystems)
(TB) Tim Boland (NIST)
Absent:
(DD) Dimitris Dimitriadis (Ontologicon)
Summary of New Action Items:
AI-20050613-1 -- Karl -- Create Dublin f2f page -- due: 20050620
AI-20050613-2 -- Karl -- Invite Paul Grosso to join 6/20 telecon --
due: 20050613
AI-20050613-3 -- Karl -- start email discussion of example & disclaimer
for umbrella -- due: 20050614
AI-20050613-4 -- Karl -- proposal, how to continue some QA work after
QAWG expires -- due: 20050627
Agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2005Jun/0005
Previous Telcon Minutes:
(draft) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2005May/0087.html
Minutes:
* 2.) Routine business: Dublin Information
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PC has sent information and made arrangements and reservations for
hotel. KD took action item to create a face-to-face page.
* 3.) Update on QA Specification Guidelines.
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KD: QA mail list discussions, unexpected, about 3 issues:
-- Ian Hickson (IH),
-- Paul Grosso (PG),
-- WAI CG
IH decided that he could live with our response, although he didn't like it
very much
PG disagreed personally. XML Core didn't take position. Should we
continue discussing or ignore it? DH: he is also an AC rep, and might
continue objection at PR level. In which case director might have to
override(?) again. Options:
1--ask Director to approve progression without resolution.
2--someone talk to PG privately
3--invite him to join QA telecon to discuss
LH: would another option be to tell him to check n/a for the CoP
requirement, if he doesn't think it applies? DH: thinks thats a bad
idea. MS: invite him to sit in on call is best. KD took Action Item to
invite PG to call QAWG next Monday (due today). DH: suggests "plan B"
(option #2 above), in case he can't or won't join next Monday. MS will be
fallback for plan B, but plan A (option #3 above) is much preferred.
WAI CG suggested wording changes (by Al Gilman). KD proposed our answers
to him, we're still awaiting reply. DH: WAI CG is meeting Wed, so maybe
we'll get an answer then.
DH: during PR, we should try to get testimonials on SpecGL. Can you get
one from "Your organization?" KD: is it okay from outside of W3C? DH:
usually only W3C, but we could probably get an exception. LR: NIST can
provide some.
Publication status: CR publication planning on hold till resolve issues w/
WAI CG and PG.
* 4.) Update on ViS
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DH: sent email today w/ link to new Editors version of ViS. Integrates
all new stuff from DM etc. Issues:
1.) CoP and Specification Categories.
2.) umbrella specifications -- lacking agreement on what it covers, etc.
DH: Spec. Cats. lack clarity and motivation, and should be considered for
removal unless we can better integrate them into the process of producing
CoP (which latter has been source of issues).
DM: no strong opinion on umbrella. LH/KD: should we note that the
dividing line -- umbrella & profiles is not sharply defined? DM: add
strong example like OWL (or XML Query?). LH: Plus add disclaimer that
there is no hard dividing line between umbrella and profiles, and the
concept and separation are still being refined.
KD took action item to start mail list discussion of example and
disclaimer. Due tomorrow. (Email discussion to finish by next telecon,
20050620.)
DH: So new publication of ViS will likely be around end of June.
* 5.) AC report (Mandelieu 2005)
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DH: (Gave report. It's not public because AC Meeting is member-only.)
Long story short, it doesn't look like there will be renewal of the QA
Activity.
KD: QA not necessarily dead within W3C. Work could continue also within
QAIG. Would people participate? LH: some problem if there is no
organizational structure, leadership, or support. Could someone make a
concrete proposal? KD: Could discuss at Dublin. DH: Anyone take AI to
make such a proposal? KD will make first try at a post-QAWG proposal (due
in 2 weeks).
* 6.) Future Telconf and Dublin Meeting
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KD: What to do about 6 Mondays (telecons) before Dublin?
DH: Test taxonomy document & TestFAQ? TCDL? [Ed. TCDL or
TCML???] DM: XML Query Test Task Force has done something. KD: Other
topics? KD: Every two weeks instead of every week? DH: I can't meet
some Mondays? KD: Other conflicts? All U.S members -- 4th July. Several
others have July conflicts. Will solicit conflicts and resolve on QAWG list.
DH: meet next monday (6/20), following monday (6/27). Sort out the rest
on QAWG list.
adjourned: 11:52am EDT.
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