- From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:33:47 +0100
- To: www-qa-wg@w3.org
- Cc: Olivier Théreaux <ot@w3.org>
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* DRAFT - Morning 1 - F2F QA WG - TP - Mandelieu 2004 Actions Items: AI-20040301-01: LH to fill the [QA Test Suite] Questionnaire Scribe: Karl Dubost Participants: LH Lofton Henderson MS Marc Skall PC Patrick Curran DHM Dominique Hazaël-Massieux LR Lynne Rosenthal KD Karl Dubost OT Olivier Théreaux Observers: RA Richard Aughton, Amadeus CN Colas Nahaboo, Ilog MB Mary Brady, NIST Round around the table to present participants Presentation of the [QA WG] by [DHM] * [QA Wiki] [DHM] is presenting the [QA Wiki] and is making a demo of it, explaining the different syntax conventions, the social nature of it, the advantages which belong to wikis. [DHM]: The wiki is trying to foster more participation of many people outside or inside of the W3C. It might be a good idea to use it for the [QA WG] too. [PC]: If I don't want to use the special markup, can I? If I want to use HTML. [DHM]: Not really. You have to use the specific simple markup. [KD]: Don't be afraid to edit the pages. Don't be afraid to rewrite other people's content (you can still save the old page in another place). [LH]: Looking at the topic of RFC Keywords, I was afraid to start another argument in another place about the use of it. [DHM]: As long as you are not aggressive or anything, you can add things to the wiki. It's really meant to be a collaborative tool. [LR]: I liked it because I didn't have to know anything to use it. [MB] Can you address particular issues about Testing issues? [DHM] It can be anything you want. So yes you can use it to solve some issues. [CN]is proposing to the attendants to share his experience of wikis inside Ilog for 3 years as a Team tool. [KD]is presenting as a tool to interact between Mailing-lists and wikis, like [Pompeurs ML] and [Pompeurs Wiki] [PC][MB] We can announce it on our different places. * in-reach/out-reach An insight about in and out-reach topics in [W3C QA] is given by [OT]. [WASP] has been the main topic addressed for the last few months. A plan is made to revive the [public-evangelist] list. [OT] has been quite dormant these past months, except for the [WASP] Project. They have a strong Web designers perspective. They ask a question and we are producing an article to help people to understand the topic on a very basic level. The articles have either a good reception in the community or sometimes a “Troll Fest”. [KD] has tried to revive the [public-evangelist]. [KD] is reading things on the Web and public-evangelist might be a good way to share it and so create discussions on the mailing-list * to inform people of the [public-evangelist] on what's happening on the Web * to inform people of the [QA WG] of concerns of people with regard to the specs. (Moved discussion about wikis on the previous topic) * WWW2004 Panel A panel is organized for the WWW2004 conference on the interests of Web Standards. [DHM] is presenting the panel. It will be a discussion about the good and bad side of standards or discussions. Something to say? [MS] On the mailing list there was a discussion about making it controversial, and what were the strategies for that? [LH] we are not in control on that panel. David Marston is the one who is managing the information. * Workshop in NY. The Workshop will not happen in May 2004 but the idea and the (virtual) organization are not abandoned for future happening. [OT][KD] have tried to organize a workshop at the same time than the [WWW 2004] Conference. We didn't push further because of lack of time and lack of resources, but we didn't dump the idea. We are keeping the idea to organize this workshop, because the conference could be a very good opportunity to create proceedings. We will push further the idea to have a package ready to use. [LR] It will be a good idea to not have only best practices but also worse practices. [LH] When do we decide to organize it? [OT] Not in May 2004 for sure, but maybe later on. * Other IG topics. [OT] We have reached a stabilized way of working. We have found a kind of equilibrium. We should maybe advertised it a bit more. [LR] agrees. [LH] What are the topics addressed by the IG. [KD] It's not very visible outside, but we have a lot of liaisons work, and also help or answering to private mail questions. [OT] It's not a strongly defined entity, but more small pieces interconnected. But we have things like the validators, and other topics are done by small Task Forces. * Special topics about [Testing Practices] Questionnaire [LH] Should we answer ourselves to the [Testing Practices] questionnaire? [LR][DHM] Not necessary [MS] agrees with [LH] AI-20040301-01: LH to fill the [Testing Practices] Questionnaire [QA Wiki] http://esw.w3.org/topic/QA [QA WG] http://www.w3.org/QA [WASP] http://webstandards.org/ [Pompeurs ML] http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/pompeurs/ [Pompeurs Wiki] http://www.publishtogether.com/pompeurs/ [public-evangelist] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-evangelist/ [WWW 2004] http://www2004.org/ [Testing Practices] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34786/qa-test/ [DHM] http://www.w3.org/People/Dom/ [KD] http://www.w3.org/People/karl [OT] http://www.w3.org/People/olivier/ [CN] http://koala.ilog.fr/colas/ [LH] http://esw.w3.org/topic/LoftonHenderson [LR] http://esw.w3.org/topic/LynneRosenthal [MB] -- Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/ W3C Conformance Manager *** Be Strict To Be Cool ***
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