- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 16:06:46 +0100
- To: www-qa-wg@w3.org
- Cc: sandro@w3.org, w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
I am hoping to send some comments to the www-qa list concerning the QAF later today. I think it may be timely to highlight one comment on the Test Guidelines concerning the functional analysis (and overall framework for testing) described in that document. (The document I have reviewed is an editors draft: http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/10/TestGL-20031020.html ) The comment currently reads: [[ Functional Analysis and Test Driven Development At times, RDF Core used a test driven specification development methodology. Issues from the issue list were resolved by agreeing test cases. The editors then had complete freedom to write text which conformed with the test cases. (The text was later reviewed, so the freedom was not as excessive as it seems). Examples can be found both regarding syntax and semantics. A syntax example is rdfms-empty-property-elements[1] which was resolved with these words: RESOLUTION: the consolidated test cases represent RDFCore's decision on this; the issue can be closed once those test cases are all in one place. The test cases can be found in this directory [2]. As far as I can tell, this predates the first editor's draft of the revised grammar, and modified the old grammar. i.e. that this decision, does not follow your methodology at all, is a test-focussed decision, and was good. A semantics example is rdfms-identity-of-statements [3] for which the issue resolution is but a single test case: Resolution: The RDFCore WG resolved: <stmt1> <rdf:type> <rdf:Statement> . <stmt1> <rdf:subject> <subject> . <stmt1> <rdf:predicate> <predicate> . <stmt1> <rdf:object> <object> . <stmt2> <rdf:type> <rdf:Statement> . <stmt2> <rdf:subject> <subject> . <stmt2> <rdf:predicate> <predicate> . <stmt2> <rdf:object> <object> . <stmt1> <property> <foo> . does not entail: <stmt2> <property> <foo> . Just perfect! (The syntax used in the test case is a muddle, but all the WG members could understand it. The test case will have been sanitised into the RDF Test Cases somewhere. The RDF Semantics documents reflect this. Using test cases as part, sometimes the only part of, the issue resolution process brings clarity and openness. It leaves the editors with large discretion that permits the documents to be of higher quality. In as much as the Test Guidelines and the QAF prohibit and/or obstruct this behaviour I suggest that the QAWG has got it wrong, and needs to start over. [1] http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-empty-property-elements [2] http://www.w3.org/2000/10/rdf-tests/rdfcore/rdfms-empty-property-elements [3] http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-identity-of-statements ]] I note that at your telecon on Monday, Sandro will be presenting stuff about WebOnt and RDF Core approach to testing. I am available to attend if you would like. . Sandro is likely to be friendlier than me, and I suspect has seen enough of how both groups operate to adequately inform you. Sandro was involved in the latter half of OWL's development and at the very end of RDF's. I have been a member of WebOnt throughout its life. My involvement with RDF Core postdates the syntax decision above, but I believe I voted on the semantics resolution quoted. Jeremy Carroll
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