- From: Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>
- Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:40:41 -0700
- To: www-qa-wg@w3.org
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QA WG participants -- According to Dom's OpsGL assessment of QAWG ([1], [2]), we fail. A lot of the problems are related to our lack of a QAPD (QA Process Document). About a dozen of OpsGL's checkpoints rely on addressing required items in a QAPD. Our QAPD is supposed to be part 3 of our combined QAWG Process Document (QAWGPD). The current draft is at [3]. It is on our agenda for Boston, and we should set the goal to finish it. Please have a look in advance, and be ready to raise any issues that you have with it. Advance comments by email are preferable, as always. Here are some comments of my own. There are numerous "@@@". A lot are editorial tasks to be completed, some are substantive issues. Sec1.1, last "@@@": we need to decide between chair or vote, for accepting invited experts. While I think it's a good idea to record a well-defined way to handle invited experts, on the other hand it should be consistent with our generally low-key and flexible approach (we *rarely* vote on things). So I would opt for "chair" or "chair, after consultation with WG members." I.e., we make sure everyone is aware, and then chair makes decision (this gives the opportunity for any significant negatives to be raised). Sec1.2, last pgph: I think the answer to the "@@@" question is "no". Also, if we agree that invited expert should not force a necessary vote, then should "Topic expert" be any different? Sec3.2. This section needs work -- guidelines about what things we to the IG and when. It arises again later, in the section about issues. Sec4: Notification of AI completion should be "Cc:" to QAWG. Sec5.1, 2nd pgph: I guess the right way is to formally enter issues, but for expedience (when we have been pressed for time), we have taken short-cuts. E.g., the 25+ AR SpecGL comments before Seattle. We ended up doing the equivalent of Issue List processing (numbered, discussed, resolved, replied to commenter). It is nice to have all of this stuff in a single place, but time pressure sometimes prevents. Actually, I think if we just delete the 2nd paragraph we don't lose anything, and the essential process requirements remain. Sec5.2. "Chair (document editor?)" -- probably "Chair". Note that document editor is typically assigned to be the owner, as we are now doing things. Sec5.2: All issues should have a proposed resolution before they are logged/queued. I would assign that to the owner, to ensure that they have such. Sec5.3: This should address and make clear whether issue discussion is on IG list or WG list. Or sometimes IG, sometimes WG (and what is the criterion to decide.) Sec 5.x: Should we indicate that Sec 5 describes the normal or nominal way of handling issues, but we can make "reasonable" exemptions by WG consensus? Reason. What we did with the 28 AR issues (on SpecGL) was reasonable and equivalent, and observed all of the necessary aspects -- discussion, consensus, notification -- but was an expedient. (And violated our processes as written.) We should ensure that we are using reasonable processes -- like these described ones if possible -- but not inflexibly tie our hands. "Test Material": This final 1/3 (major section) is our QAPD. A couple of global comments: ** We need to measure what is in here against Dom's comments ([1], [2]). ** We need to consider and define, what are test materials for our three GL specs? ** Should we try the exercise of filling in the QAPD template [4], and putting it here instead? All for now, -Lofton. [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2003Feb/0116.html [2] http://www.w3.org/QA/Group/2003/02/qaframe-ops-qawg [3] http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/01/qawgpd-20030103.html [4] http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/2003/02/OpsET-qapd-20030217
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