- From: Jaye, Dan <DJaye@Engage.com>
- Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:59:58 -0400
- To: "'www-p3p-public-comments@w3.org'" <www-p3p-public-comments@w3.org>
> -----Original Message----- > From: Jaye, Dan > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 11:58 PM > To: Lorrie Cranor (E-mail) > Cc: 'p3p-comments@w3.org' > Subject: Comments on changes to P3P vocabulary > > I appreciate the extensive effort that has gone into generating the > current draft of the P3P specification. The hard work from the team shows > in the quality of the deliverable. > > In addition, as one of the original project participants, it is rewarding > to see that the intellectual property concerns over the original direction > of the P3P project have been resolved. > > As P3P has been re-scoped, these issues are certainly moot. The decision > to eliminate data transfer has been addressed in your comments, and, > although my opinion is that P3P is no longer as compelling for marketers > and consumers, certainly the challenge of P3P has been simplified. > > However, certain material changes to the vocabulary of P3P appeared in the > February 8th draft. No discussion or public comments justifiying these > changes appears to be available, so I hope that my comments here will > result in a clarification of the rational for these changes. > > In particular the decision to eliminate the "identifiable" statement and > the addition of a new "purpose" values that are not a purpose at all is of > great concern. > > The identifiable statement has always been of concern because it has not > necessarily distinguished with complete clarity between personally > identifiable and individually identifiable data. I understand that > there were concerns about the definition of personally identifiable. > Notwithstanding these concerns, dropping the construct completely > eviscerates the value of P3P. Every data protection statute and standard > of which I am familiar tackles (albeit each with slight variations) the > terminology of personal data. Many consequences of this omission will > result: > > Without a distinction between PII and non-PII in P3P, it becomes useless > as a base vocabulary for filtering technologies that need to address this > distinction. It removes an incentive for companies to treat data > anonymously because they will receive no favorable treatment by filtering > engines when they follow an anonymous approach to data. The omission of > the Identifiable qualifier incents companies to interpret P3P to only > apply to PII and not make any P3P disclosures with regard to non-PII. I > doubt this was the intent of the committee > > In the CPExchange project and in the IETF Trust Mechanism for State Mgt > draft, both standards hope to adopt P3P vocabulary and DTD as the > default... without this capability built in to the "Core" vocabulary, P3P > becomes a poor base vocabulary and a difficult standard to recommend as a > starting point for other work. > > With regard to the purposes section, the split of Tailoring the Users > Experience to Explicit Customization and One time Targeting and the > addition of Individual Profiling is problematic. > > One time Targeting arguably does not deal with any persistent data > collection and one may argue about whether privacy implications are > applicable in this case. If I only use data from the current session and > environment variables for tailoring content, this does not constitute data > collection. Hence it is not a purpose of data collection. In addition, > the use of the word Targeting in English perpetuates the unhelpful > metaphor of corporation as hunter and consumer as hunted. I would suggest > that the original, neutral language of "tailoring" of content or messages > be retained. > > The purpose "Individual Profiling" is neither a purpose or useful in this > context and as defined.. Profiling is not a purpose, it is a process. > Profiles are built for some purpose, not just for the sake of building > them. For example, user profiles may be used to help understand a web > sites audience. User profiles might be used to understand what the tastes > of web site visitors are so that the durable design of a web site can be > improved. User profiles might be used to understand what percentage of > consumers who saw an advertisement actually made a purchase. User > profiles might be used to tailor the experience of an individual consumer. > In addition, profiling, like targeting, is gaining a pejorative > connotation as a "loaded" term, being associated by the popular media with > the law enforcements use of apparent ethnic origin as a criteria for > taking action. Also, it is unclear how "profiling" as used relates to the > "compiling...of personally identifiable information of that individual or > computer", especially when the term personally identifiable information > has not been defined. > > With respect to categories, the category "unique identifiers" lumps any > and all unique identifiers in the same category as such privacy-sensitive > information as > SSN's. A closely held unique identifier for a browser relationship to a > server within a specific context does not have the same implications as a > widely shared and understood globally unique identifier. Particularly > given the absence of an "identifiable" qualifier, there will not be a > meaningful way to distinguish collection of an SSN from clickstream > collection for purposes such as research and logging. > > Given the current state of the core vocabulary and the lack of a > negotiation and transfer mechanism, there is underwhelming incentive in > this standard for marketers to endorse this standard. > > I suggest the following modifications to the current draft to address > these concerns. > > 1) Create a "Personally Identifiable" qualifier analogous to the original > "Identifiable" qualifier. > > 2) Omit the One-time Targeting purpose.or at least change it to "One-time > Tailoring" or "Immediate Tailoring". > > 3) Change the "profiling" purpose to "Ongoing Tailoring" with appropriate > edits to constrain the definition to the use of individual data (PII or > non-PII) for the purpose of tailoring a users experience. > > 4) Consider separating out "globally unique identifiers" and "pairwise > unique identifiers" or "secret unique identifiers". > >
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