- From: Robert Vincenz <vincenz@snafu.de>
- Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:07:09 +0200
- To: www-multimodal@w3.org
Hello everyone, I'm not a native English people so sorry for my bad English. I found some typos and errors on the Last Call of the IncML from 27 May 2010 (http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/) . 2.1 <ink> element -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/#inkElement For all but the documentID you give the require and default information. '( definitions | context | trace | traceGroup | traceView | annotation | annotationXML )*' this should be 'trace ( definitions | context | trace | traceGroup | traceView | annotation | annotationXML )*' So that there MUST be one trace Element. Because this can be used in situation where the date of creation/capturing is important you should also proved a optional date Attribute. 3.1.1 <traceFormat> element -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/#traceFormat In the last line 'The default trace format may be explicitly specified using the URI "#DefaultTraceFormat". The application defines the default trace format.' This Element have no URI as attribute or content so do you mean the ID or is this URI used in a different place and mean a not defined traceFormat definition? If this is a URI that is used in a other Element pleas name them or move this line to this Elements description. 3.1.2 <intermittentChannels> element -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/#intermittentChannels To avoid misinterpretation you MUST define that the intermittentChannels MUST NOT be followed by a normal channel definition. Because in this cases the order is not clear. I also recommit to change this Element definition place to be after the one of the channel Element. 3.1.3 <channel> element -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/#channel Is the name attribute value case sensitive interpreted? The most pens give a value that DO NOT present a mass but a relative value(0 for not pressed up to a a max value like 256 or 1024 that represent the max measured press or more). So why is g(gram) used? I recommit to use a percentage value or a decimal from .0 to 1. As alternate split it to F for force with percentage or .0 to 1 and G for a mass in gram. For the orientation attribute is what is +ve? Increase or decrease? 3.1.5 Color Channels -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/#color What is the value range of CR, CG, CB, CC, CM, CY and CK or is a mapping element required for the range? This Range SHOULD be definable because the Color-space size for professional graphic programs can be 8, 10, 12, 16, 32 bit per channel(e.g. http://www.cinepaint.org/). Maybe the Color channels should be defined more free to allow more color-spaces like YUV, CIE, ... 3.1.7 Time Channel -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/#time The "(see Time Channel)" is a self-reference. Why? Do you mean the timestamp element? 'As with the other predefined channels, the meaning of the integer or decimal values recorded by the time channel in a given trace is defined by the <inkSource> information associated with the trace's <traceFormat>.' This is the first time the inSource element is named. Which other predefined channels are affected? 3.1.9 Specifying Trace Formats -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/#specifying 'Thus, in the simplest case, an InkML file may contain nothing but <trace> elements.' That not correct. As you wrote in 1.2 'All content of an InkML document is contained within a single <ink> element.' This is also required to be XML conform. What you mean is: "Thus, in the simplest case, an InkML file may contain nothing but <trace> elements insite a <ink> element." 3.2.1 <trace> element -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/#trace 'Extended Backus-Naur Form (EBNF)' There is no reference to the RFC or other document that defines EBNF and the one provided is not this good. 'trace ::= point ("," point)* ","? wsp* point ::= (wsp* value)+ wsp* value ::= difference_order? wsp* "-"? wsp* number | "T" | "F" | "*" | "?"' This is wrong. Because this allows: 1) negative values for coordinate values 2) a point to be only made with one value 3) you can prefix the T F * and ? with - 4) write two values without space( 1 2 -> 12). you have wrote this already after the EBNF, but why using EBNF and then tell the reader to ignore it? 5) difference order for F T * and ? 6) ? for regular values 7) mix of regular and intermittent values 'trace ::= first_point ("," more_points)* ","? wsp* first_point ::= wsp* coordinate_values ( wsp* regular_value+ wsp* intermittent_value* )? wsp* more_points ::= wsp* (coordinate_values | relative_coord) wsp* ( regular_value* wsp* intermittent_value* ) wsp* coordinate_values ::= number wsp number relative_coord ::= "-"? wsp* number ( "-" wsp* ) | wsp+ ) number regular_value ::= ( ( difference_order? ( ( "-" wsp* ) | wsp+ ) number ) | "*" ) wsp* intermittent_value ::= ( regular_value | "?" | boolean ) wsp boolean ::= "T" | "F" ' If the continuation attribute is not present, is then the trace presenting a complete one? In the case of a trace with a continuation attribute with "begin" or "middle" is followed by a trace without continuation, how is this to interpret or is this not allowed? Must a "multi trace" finished/closed with a trace element with a continuation attribute with the value "end"? Type attribute definition: 'A value of "indeterminate" is used if the contact-state ... and may be either unknown or variable within the trace.' The change of penup/pendown should force to a new trace. If the trace is of none contact(between pen and digitizer) it is pen up. If the pen is in contact with the digitizer it is pendown. In the example you give it is important to know if the pen has contact at tracing time or not and there is no other way to define this state. And i see no use case where a mix of pendown/penup is of no relevance or where the state can't be determined(the unknown state). 'Regular channels may be reported as explicit values, differences, or second differences: ...' What is a second difference? Does this mean that a second difference is refer to the same as a preceding difference or to the difference? 'Intermittent channels may be encoded with the wildcard character "?".' and 'All regular channels must be reported, if only with the explicit wildcard "?".' Because of the first line i cite i think the second is not right. The only wildcard allowed for regular channels is the *. 'If any intermittent values are reported for the point, they are given next, in the order given by the <intermittentChannels> elements of the applicable <traceFormat>. Unreported intermittent channels are interpreted as though they were given by the wildcard "*".' This definition make it not clear if it is allowed to leave any channels away, when one is given. So here two questions : 1) is it OK to leave the channels away that follow the channel you give a value? (as i can see in the example it is OK) 2)is it OK to leave channels away before the one you give(that is not OK -> misinterpretation, but you do not forbid it) 'If any intermittent values are reported for the point, they are given next, in the order given by the <intermittentChannels> elements of the applicable <traceFormat>. Only intermittent channels that follows the last explicit given channels can be give away and are interpreted as though they were given by the wildcard "*".' In the table that explain the example is something wrong on row 3("7"-8) or 4(3-5). I can't say which one because the second difference is not clear. If the second difference is the difference to the difference than is row 4 wrong(3-5) or there is no need for a second difference because this is the same as a numeric value. If the second difference is the difference to the value before the difference, then the 3th row is wrong("7"-8 | 1132 | 18424 | ...). In the same table every thing is the difference to the previews values and not the absolute values. But i can't see why this is so. Is the default to interpret the values relative? Then the example in 1.2 is wrong because there is the values interpreted as absolute coordinates. 'Note: see Appendix A Implementation Guidelines for information about reducing file or stream size.' Appendix A is "Acknowledgements". You mean Appendix B. 3.3.2 <traceView> element -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-InkML-20100527/#traceViewElement In the example the cascades of tracegroup elements is keep as in the origin. But i can't see this in the description. Must the cascades keep as in the source? the second traceview element of L3 has the "4:1:1" value for the to attribute. In the description under the example is "4:1:1:2" written, which is right for the given output. I#m not sure what is with a 0 in a to or from attribute value: e.g. <ink> <trace xml:id="t1">1 2, 3 4, 5 6</trace> <traceView traceDataRef="t1" to="0:2" /> </ink> what is right? 1) it's not right because the index starts with 1 2) <trace> 1 2, 3 4</trace> 3) <trace xml:id="t1">1 2, 3 4, 5 6</trace> If it is 1 the example in the Draft is right, but you cant select values in a document with only one ink, one trace and traceView elements. The 2 mean its not a consistent numbering(elements can start with 0 but points start with 1). 3 means the examples in the Draft are wrong, but you can select points in my example and its a consistent numbering. Thats all for the moment. I hope i find the Time to check the other Chapters. Robert Vincenz
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