- From: Debbie Garside <md@ictenterprise.co.uk>
- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:20:29 +0100
- To: "'Mark Davis'" <mark.davis@icu-project.org>, "'Goutam Kumar Saha'" <goutam.k.saha@cdackolkata.com>
- Cc: <bruno.girin@cambista.com>, <cambista@triskeltech.co.uk>, "'Martin Duerst'" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>, <www-international@w3.org>, <www-multimodal@w3.org>
Perhaps speed is a factor in this new product. Is it faster to write or put together key combinations for the characters? Certainly, as a tool to aid education I think it may be very useful. India is a large market so even if it addresses a need within a niche it will be successful IMHO. Best regards Debbie Garside > -----Original Message----- > From: www-international-request@w3.org > [mailto:www-international-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Mark Davis > Sent: 13 April 2006 14:44 > To: Goutam Kumar Saha > Cc: bruno.girin@cambista.com; cambista@triskeltech.co.uk; > Martin Duerst; www-international@w3.org; www-multimodal@w3.org > Subject: Re: Pen-gesture keyboard for Hindi > > > With few exceptions, it is pretty transparent which > characters are typed to compose which syllables. And those > same pieces are the ones that you can see on the tablet. The > only real advantage of the tablet, that I can see, is that > the choices can be more dynamically presented -- on the other > hand, we've seen lot's of tablet technology being hyped as > innovative, then sink like a stone in the market. > > But perhaps I'm wrong; there's little point to arguing this > -- let's just wait and look back in a year from now and see > how successful this is. > > Mark > > Goutam Kumar Saha wrote: > > This is for general information that Hindi, Bengali and most of the > > other Indian Languages' written form is based on syllables and we > > need to learn what combination of keys on a keyboard > produce each syllable. > > > > Regards-- Goutam Saha > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bruno Girin (Cambista)" <cambista@triskeltech.co.uk> > > To: "Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org> > > Cc: "Martin Duerst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>; "Chris Lilley" > > <chris@w3.org>; <www-international@w3.org>; <www-multimodal@w3.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:29 PM > > Subject: Re: Pen-gesture keyboard for Hindi > > > > > > > >> Not if you consider that, according to the articles, it is > meant to > >> be used by people who have never used a traditional > western keyboard > >> and have probably spent all their lives thinking in > grapheme clusters > >> rather than individual letters, when they write. I don't know > >> anything about Hindi but I assume that if the language's > written form > >> is based on syllables, having to learn what combination of > keys on a > >> keyboard produce each syllable can be a hurdle in educating people > >> about computers because they have to first learn a brand > new way to > >> write their own language. > >> > >> What I find interesting about this, if I follow the article > >> correctly, is that it provides a fresh look at data input for > >> languages that are not alphabet-based and are typically > difficult to input using a keyboard. > >> > >> Maybe it will never prove to be a viable alternative but having > >> someone consider any alternative is good IMHO. > >> > >> Mark Davis wrote: > >> > >>> Right, but nobody ever used a 1000 key keyboard for Hindi, so the > >>> "news" about it replacing the need for it is a red herring. > >>> > >>> Mark > >>> > >>> Martin Duerst wrote: > >>> > >>>> At 02:17 06/04/12, Mark Davis wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> It looks very overblown to me; saw a news report about > "a process > >>>>> > >>>> that would require up to 1,000 keys using a traditional keyboard" > >>>> which is bizarre for Indic. > >>>> > >>>> That range of number suggests that they are thinking > about Hindi in > >>>> terms of syllables, treating each grapheme cluster as a unit. > >>>> In practice, there are about 1000-3000 such clusters in > practical use. > >>>> > >>>> But this is just a guess. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, Martin. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Mark > >>>>> > >>>>> Chris Lilley wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hello , > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I thought this might be interesting, partly for the I18n aspect > >>>>>> > >>>> and partly for the pen-based, gesture modality of text entry. > >>>> > >>>>>> > > > http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/07/hp-provides-deets-on-gesture-keyboa > > rd/ > > > > > http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/17/hp-indias-gesture-keyboard-for-pen- > > entry/ > > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >> ***************************************** > >> This mail is checked by Vexira Antivirus > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
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