Re: Fw: [Moderator Action] Fwd: what's wrong with CC/PP

Hi Simon,
as chair of the WG, I would like to have more detailed comments. What do
you consider overdesigned, and why? Do you have suggestions for alternative
mechanisms? If you can make capabilities negotiation simpler without
creating a separate protocol, I would like to hear how. 

Johan

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>I just sent this to XML-Dev (which has been discussing "What's wrong with
>SVG" of late, hence the title.)
>
>I'm deeply concerned that CC/PP is both a critical component and radically
>overdesigned.
>
>>Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 19:52:04 -0500
>>To: XML-Dev Mailing list <xml-dev@xml.org>
>>From: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com>
>>Subject: what's wrong with CC/PP
>>
>>As long as we're talking about controversial design choices...
>>
>>The latest draft of Composite Capabilities/Preference Profiles (CC/PP) has
>me really wondering.  (http://www.w3.org/TR/CCPP-ra)  CC/PP is a critical
>part of making XHTML and other XML vocabularies easily exchangeable,
>allowing clients, servers, and other participants to describe their
>capabilities.
>>
>>Over a year since RDF Schemas went into Proposed Recommendation status,
>apparently never to return, this critical spec-in-progress announces that
>it plans to define its vocabulary items in RDF Schemas.
>>
>>RDF Schema isn't the only W3C spec referenced here - P3P, digital
>signatures and XML all pop up, along with WAI, and of course HTTP - but it
>seems like this is some really critical work to be building on foundations
>that aren't nearly stable (or, from some perspectives, even likable) yet.
>WAP and the IETF CONNEG work are also referenced.
>>
>>The "Executive Summary of Requirements" notes "Flexibility, extensibility,
>and distribution," but appears to have entirely forgotten simplicity.
>>
>>Yikes!  Is it too late to derail this train?
>> 
>Simon St.Laurent
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                         Johan HJELM
      Ericsson Research, User Applications Group 
         Currently visiting engineer at the W3C
Chair, CC/PP Working Group and WCA Interest Group
             The World Wide Web Consortium
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