- From: Schubotz, Moritz <Moritz.Schubotz@fiz-Karlsruhe.de>
- Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 08:46:00 +0000
- To: David Carlisle <david.carlisle@nag.co.uk>, "www-math@w3.org" <www-math@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <e3821ebca39647d1a4c4e5f3d04b3a28@fiz-Karlsruhe.de>
Thank you David. I think that’s a good motivation.
From: David Carlisle <david.carlisle@nag.co.uk<mailto:david.carlisle@nag.co.uk>>
Date: Thursday, 25. Sep 2025 at 10:40 AM
To: www-math@w3.org <www-math@w3.org<mailto:www-math@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: arXiv updates and MathML Intent
So what is supposed to be the pronunciation of the box symbol there supposing to represent the cartesian product of graphs ? □
If you just have the box character it's going to be read as box or white box or something it will not be brilliant but will be understandable.
It may be a while before authors routinely add more specific intents (although \MathMLintent is defined in the latex-dev format if you got an update to texlive this morning.)
However hopefully even now authors are not usually directly accessing the character but defining a more semantically meaningful command and so could do
\DocumentMetadata{tagging=on}
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\NewDocumentCommand\graphprod{}{\MathMLintent{graph-product}{\mdlgwhtsquare}}
\begin{document}
$A \graphprod B$
\end{document}
which produces the following MathML using lualatex-dev if you have LaTeX2e <2025-11-01> pre-release-2 which was released this morning.
<math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"<http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML>>
<mi>𝐴</mi>
<mi intent="graph-product" mathvariant="normal">□</mi>
<mi>𝐵</mi>
</math>
which gets read as
A graph product of B
(I don't think it should read "of" here but that's an implementation detail, as is the fact that we ought to generate mo rather than mi for the infix operator, which is a known issue)
David
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