- From: Stephen Watt <smwatt@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:18:09 -0500
- To: Deyan Ginev <deyan.ginev@gmail.com>
- Cc: Neil Soiffer <soiffer@alum.mit.edu>, "www-math W3C (www-math@w3.org)" <www-math@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CALozgsiJrGtYLTE-imp5rqHRdyTp6+mL5LbTjpgqL1NyVoG=aA@mail.gmail.com>
Hours show up as "h" in the commonly used kWh for energy. Of course SI
uses seconds (and prefix multiples) only as the time unit if I recall.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024, 05:48 Deyan Ginev <deyan.ginev@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Neil, all,
>
> kilo-hours is indeed a sensible unit and has the symbol "khrs".
>
> I see 32 examples of SI Unit symbols with leading "k" in wiktionary, here:
>
> https://en.m.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Symbols_for_SI_units&pagefrom=HG%0Ahg#mw-pages
>
> I suspect there is no "kh" in SI, but "kH" is a "kilohenry" and "kHz" is a
> "kilohertz".
>
> As one idea:
> If one anticipates parsing collisions, a system could support the most
> common unit symbols activating via the ":unit" Intent property,
> but require an explicit :si add-on property to 'intent=":si:unit"', to
> activate the full range of SI possibilities (and safely ignore non-SI
> conflicts).
>
> Another idea would be to require rare/unsupported SI units to carry an
> explicit intent concept, as with intent="kilohour:unit".
>
> Lastly, I suspect this kind of discussion would be better redirected into
> an open MathCAT issue, rather than a closed w3c/mathml issue.
>
> Greetings,
> Deyan
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 3:31 AM Neil Soiffer <soiffer@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> I've started work on making MathCAT handle ":units" and wonder how many
>> of the "accepted" units (and others?) should or should not take SI prefixes
>> (kilo, penta, ...). The units that we came up with are listed in issue
>> #475 <https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/475>.
>>
>> For example, does "kh" for "kilo-hour" make any sense? "kt" for
>> "kilo-tonne"? "kl" for "kilo-liter" does make sense though ("liter", or for
>> the British "litre", is not a base unit, it is an accepted unit).
>>
>> Make sure to look at the "other" category at the bottom. Some of them
>> such as bytes and calories take a prefix.
>>
>> Thanks for any guidance you can provide. For posterity, adding your
>> thoughts to the issue would be best, but feel free to reply to this email
>> if that is much easier for you.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
Received on Tuesday, 12 November 2024 08:18:25 UTC