Minutes: MathML General meeting, 10 March, 2022

 Attendees:

   - David Carlisle
   - Sam Dooley
   - David Farmer
   - Deyan Ginev
   - Murray Sargent
   - Neil Soiffer
   - Bert Bos
   - Paul Libbrecht
   - Bruce Miller
   - Cary Supalo
   - Steve Noble
   - Louis Maher

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Regrets:

   - Moritz Schubotz
   - Patrick Ion

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over progress on issues from last week

DC: described his method of editing text so that others could see the
results of his editing.

dc: is using a branch on the main repository. He could make a public view
of his specification editing by instead using a fork and running a github
pags view from the fork.

DC: example: From David Carlisle to Everyone:
https://github.com/w3c/mathml/pull/275

PL: Discussed pickling. You can package an item so that only certain people
can see it. Also, the user can read the origin of the package.

   - [Make examples foldable] (https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/271)

DC: making text appear and disappear by clicking on the heading. Did not
work.

NS: showed examples of this situation where folding would help.

*action:* DC will continue to work issue 271.

   - Align text in Chapter 3 with core
   <https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/272>

In section 1.3, BM: wrote about the differences between full and core.

BM: became unsure what he was supposed to do versus what SN was supposed to
do.

DC: To know what tags/classes are available, check (
https://respec.org/docs/#ednote)

DC: recommends you read this section.

NS: Should we have a rule that we always refer to the bibliography?

   - Chapter 4 items:


   - Chapter 4 needs work <https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/273>


   - Move Section 4.6 Pragmatic-to-Strict Transformation into a separate
   document <https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/278>

SD: This chapter describes content MathML. Very complicated. Discusses
pragmatic content MathML and strict MathML.

SD: This chapter has a nine-part algorithm spread out through chapter 4.
Put it in one place like an index.

DC disagrees.

NS: The algorithm is a little like the operator dictionary. It gives
meaning to the pragmatic elements.

SD: had planned to give a structure to 4.6. It could be an appendix.

SD: Group consensus is to move the bits that describe this algorithm from
other sections into subsections of section 4.6 that link back to their
original locations. The expanded section 4.6 could then become an appendix
or separate document as appropriate.

NS: will write issue 284 about using intent for presentation.

NS: asked SD to add a summary of this meeting to issue 278.

   - content MathML in csymbol #276
   <https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/276>

DC: said that csymbol is like (ci). one sction in chapter 5 said you could
put content into csymbol. DC says this is wrong.

DC: will delete this statement (an existing pull request will be merged).

   - Update Operator dictionary appendix
   <https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/274>

DC: has checked this in.

DC: the operator dictionary is also in core.

NS: We will deprecate the accent property.

DC: Discussed a compressed view and a sortable view.

   - Rename and refocus Chapter 5 <https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/281>


   - Include a more deliberate integration of accessibility
   <https://github.com/w3c/mathml/issues/282>

For next week's meeting, NS: will work on chapter 3.