Minutes: MathML Intent Meeting 07 October 2021

Minutes_ MathML intent meeting 7 October

Original source of these minutes
(https://www.w3.org/2021/10/07-math-minutes.html).

- DRAFT -
MathML-WG
07 October 2021

Attendees
Present
Bert, David_Farmer, davidc, Deyan, Louis2, murrays, NeilS, physikerwelt, polx, SteveNoble
Regrets
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Chair
Neil Soiffer
Scribe
Louis2

NS: Announcements/updates

BK: The collective will be announced at TPAC.

NS: Gap Analysis Doc
  a) discuss philosophical differences on names of intent -- borrow from content MathML so they are related to mathematical concepts or borrow from (English) wording

<NeilS> gap analysis is at https://w3c.github.io/mathml-docs/gap-analysis/

DC: Described how to make comments in the gap document.

NS: What naming system are we using for intent?

<bkardell_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5yek69Js/

NS: Summarized the differences in naming proposals.

SD: He is showing how the intent attribute captures semantics.

DG: Thinks he and SD should settle this separately.

MOS: This level of detail may not be important for the Gap analysis.

BM: We do not wish to promote ambiguity.

DG: Two directions-- not to have an example or have two subsections showing the different approaches.
He wants high quality examples.

SD: Is concerned with natural language making its way into the intent grammar.

DF: This is a tricky topic. aprime is the name of a single variable. There should be some way to say aprime is a variable like 'a'. This is a new topic for us.

DF: We need to show that aprime is a variable and not "a" with some operation applied to it.

NS: The intent of aprime is that aprime is one symbol.

MUS: We should spend time defining defaults. We want documents,
not marked with intent, to be accessible.

CS: AT reads 'a' as 'ah' (the short 'a' sound) and not "A" (the long 'a' sound).

NS: This is mentioned elsewhere in the document as a problem.

MUS: Put a period following 'a' and the AT may say 'A' or '"A' period.

NS: This works sometimes and not in other cases.

NS: Did not see another math counts example that would show this case more clearly.

DC: Does not want to have two examples.

NS: This document is trying to show the alternative ways of making things accessible.
This is not a fully flushed-out proposal.

BM: There are many transformations in calculus and physics. Primes show up all the time.
It is difficult to know what prime is being used.

BM: Our system must be able to accommodate many things.

DG: Will put Sam as a reviewer of the PR.

NS: Wants the gap document released before our TPAC meeting.
It needs to be done by Tuesday of next week.

NS and Brian will work on the CSS document.

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 136 (Thu May 27 13:50:24 2021 UTC).

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@outlook.com