# Re: mtable borders etc

From: Peter Krautzberger <peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:35:45 +0100
Message-ID: <CABqxo80WSqNiJHO1su=16_taYNasuGbMLjskHUtASZ5XBaLYxw@mail.gmail.com>
To: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
Cc: "www-math@w3.org" <www-math@w3.org>
David Carlisle wrote:
> You can do this now of course using menclose or (in systems that support
it) css.

RE the CSS part. It's not clear to me that MathML in HTML5 specifies that
table specific CSS to apply to mtable.

Of course, in reality, many things happen to work in implementations
(Gecko, WebKit, MathJax), no matter the formalities.

I should add that MathJax has to jump through all kinds of hoops to
implement mtable since table (especially cross-browser) just doesn't cut
it. Thus there are limits to "simply" applying generic table CSS. As we are
planning to re-write our mtable implementation, I'm very interested in
getting a clearer picture of the problem space as whole. In an ideal world,
we could base it on HTML tables -- if only there was a little bit of
collaboration between the two.

Peter.

PS:  Well, actually, in an ideal world I would get rid of tables entirely
but that's a completely different discussion.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk> wrote:

> On 11/11/2014 08:36, Daniel Marques wrote:
>
>> frame: be able to set top, left, bottom and right borders independently.
>> This does not seem difficult to add to the specification.
>>
>
> No other than adding anything more is difficult when we are still trying
> hard to get people to add what 's there.
>
> You can do this now of course using menclose or (in systems that support
> it) css.
>
> David
>
>
>

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