- From: <juanrgonzaleza@canonicalscience.com>
- Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 04:41:54 -0800 (PST)
- To: <www-math@w3.org>
William F Hammond said:
<juanrgonzaleza@canonicalscience.com> writes:
> In the first version of the input syntax for MathML i discussed here,
> stuff as entitities was represented as empty elements. Not just for MathML
> but also for XHTML. E.g. ó was <oacute/> and next defined via
> Schema (no DTD).
> I don't see oacute as a math symbol; it's just another letter.
I was simply noticing there exists interest to reemplace entities outside
of MathML too. Schemas use way i said instead current DTD entities.
> In my experience one usually says "4 pi" rather than "4 times pi".
As said standard reading of math is "4" "times" "pi". "4" "pi" is
acceptable iff you know both 4 and pi are, but "f" "x" is ambiguous. What
does I mean by (K x y) = x?
> Are you saying that mathml-capable aural user agents commonly do not
> make a distinction between
>
> <mi>x</mi><mi>y</mi> and <mi>xy</mi> ?
I think that i was saying that cannot differentiate
<mi>x</mi><mi>y</mi> from <mi>x</mi><mi>y</mi>
> Perhaps a lame aural agent might fail in this regard. But, on the
> other side, a lame visual agent might also fail by inserting an
> unknown symbol indicator for <mo>&invisibleTimes;</mo>. (There is a
> history of this.)
Because problems with non-numerical entities or with the Unicode character
itself?
> Also the invisible times can be useful for automatic linebreaking.
> But doesn't it bind rather tightly?
Enough for the cuadratic formula [1].
> As an author if I think the context for using <mi>x</mi><mi>y</mi>
> might not be sufficient to imply invisibleTimes, then I will use
> something explicit like \cdot.
But authors on the web would write for others –including machines– not for
themselves.
I do not can see how you will avoid ambiguities on your files.
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML/chapter2.html#fund.pres
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