- From: Mikko Rantalainen <mikko.rantalainen@peda.net>
- Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:53:43 +0200
- To: Bruce R Miller <bruce.miller@nist.gov>
- Cc: www-math@w3.org
Bruce R Miller wrote: > Hi all; > I'm working on a project where both MathML and math images will > be available, but the selection _really_ needs to be automatic; > a `gateway' page, or similar, would be extremely awkward; > standard `content negotiation' doesn't really see mathml support.... > So, I'm apparently stuck with browser sniffing. > > I suppose most who've thought about it have encountered the > "^Mozilla/5.*" and "^.*MathPlayer.*" patterns, but they really > aren't quite right (many versions of Mozilla w/o MathML, esp > Mac, until just recently; does MathPlayer 1 get matched?....) I'm currently looking for "MathPlayer 2.0" and "Gecko/200[567]" but it really depends on what kind of support you're looking for. You might want to add "Camino.*MathML-Enabled". Mozilla/Gecko does supports MathML in most cases but Mozilla/Gecko doesn't include all the required fonts. It correctly reports to user if he is missing some fonts, but for a casual user that isn't good enough. The same applies to even MathPlayer, just to lesser extent. For example, MathPlayer doesn't include fonts for ∌ or ⊅ If you're sure that the formulas you're trying to display render correctly with just MathPlayer installed, then checking for it /should/ be safe. Except that MSIE 6.0 / Windows XP allows user to disable the MathPlayer in Plugin Manager (IIRC) and disabling the plugin doesn't remove the "MathPlayer" string from user agent. So you cannot _really_ trust to that either! I provide an option to force MathML on regardless of detected user agent and another option to force display of images regardless of detected user agent. In an ideal world, user agent would list supported technologies in "Accept:" HTTP header and the server could just check if application/mathml+xml is accepted. The bottom line with MathML is that the user agent really should be able to display pretty much all of unicode but there isn't a single font anywhere that would contain all the required glymphs. URLs the check: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109825 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124709 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125682 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201195#c19 http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/archives/000309.html And the reason Mozillas has not fixed this issue? They're afraid that the "Accept" header could end up taking too much space and slowing down modem users: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309438 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201195 -- Mikko
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