- From: Josh M. Osborne <stripes@va.pubnix.com>
- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:34:45 -0400
- To: www-logging@w3.org
In message <Pine.SUN.3.91.960411143655.217A-100000@huygens>, Magnus Mengelbier writes: >On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Daniel DuBois wrote: [...GMT or local time?...] >I suspect it would be easiest to let the logger choose. If that is the >case, I would probably prefer that information as to GMT or local be >given somewhere in the log. A reference to time zone in the log preamble >or including the zone stamp next to the time reference, 1304GMT. If no >reference is given to the time zone, there is a problem if we combine >logs in an analysis. If the timezone does not appear with the timestamp there needs to be some way to indicate a timezone change (EDT to EST when daylight savings ends for example). Also I don't think there is an easy way to map the text abrevation (such as EDT) to GMT offsets, so if timezones are allowed I think we should specify them as an offset from GMT rather then text abrevations. Of corse if we just require the use of GMT we solve the whole problem. At a cost of some dirrect readability. Which is what I would recomend. (then again if it were up to me we would be logging seconds since some date -- the nominal start of WWW, or the Unix epoch, or some such. Since I seldom look dirrectly at logs, but my programs frequently do. And if my programs arn't throwing away the day the first thing they do is convert it into seconds since the epoch! In fact the log format I am currently using merely includes seconds since the epoch. When I am looking through the logs by hand I either convert them to the "standard" log format, or I use a command line utility to expand the dates. However since the extended logging format looks like I can define an extra set of time fields with whatever format I like I'll be happy enough to have somewhat larger log files (storing all dates twice), and have my programs run faster then programs that use the normal date field.)
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