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Fwd: Re: size of downloaded resource

From: Robert Harvel,Jr. <Harvel@webtv.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:23:11 -0600
Message-Id: <199801121423.GAA25516@mailtod-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
To: www-jigsaw@w3.org
I continue to get your E-MAIL, that is not addressed to me. This has to
stop. I have had at least 36 messages sent to me that was not even
addressed to me. At this point I am in the process of notifying the FCC
of your violations.Again it must stop now.

attached mail follows:

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Gil Hansen wrote:

> At 06:53 PM 1/8/98 +0100, Yves Lafon wrote:
> >On Sun, 21 Dec 1997, Gil Hansen wrote:
> >> How does one obtain the size of a downloaded resource? The following always
> >> yields zero: int size = reply.getContentLength();
> >
> >The code is well reply.getContentLength(), but it has to called in the 
> >outgoingFilter(Request request, Reply reply);
> >Which is after the resource has been downloaded (I assume that you are 
> >talking about a client-side filter...)
> I have a client-side filter that invokes a service's methods beforeGET and
> afterGET. The sizes of the w3c.www.protocol.http.Reply does not agree with
> the sizes of the w3c.jigsaw.http.Reply (obtained by modifying
> w3c.jigsaw.Client). This occurs when downloading www.consumerworld.org
> (which is interesting because it downloads many offsite URLs). Actually,
> the sizes are mostly -1. [It should be noted that the sizes match when
> downloading, for example,  www.dec.com and www.objs.com] The following
> trace excerpt illustrates this:
> ==>Capture a new host: www.consumerworld.org
> request URL: http://www.consumerworld.org/
>   start:   Thu Jan 08 21:45:52 CST 1998
> ...
> ***Service.beforeEvent() called...
> ***Service.beforeGET() called: http://www.consumerworld.org/gifs/conglox2.gif
> Processing Server-Level Outgoing Filter...
> ***Service.afterEvent() called...
> ***Service.afterGET() called: http://www.consumerworld.org/gifs/conwbak2.gif
> @@@end before start
>   end:   Thu Jan 08 21:37:58 CST 1998
>   request size: -1
>   reply size: 1564
> Processing Server-Level Outgoing Filter...
> ***Service.afterEvent() called...
> ***Service.afterGET() called: http://www.consumerworld.org/gifs/marqpric.gif
> @@@end before start
>   end:   Thu Jan 08 21:37:58 CST 1998
>   request size: -1
>   reply size: 2993
> Processing Server-Level Outgoing Filter...
> ***Service.afterEvent() called...
> ***Service.afterGET() called: http://www.consumerworld.org/gifs/conglox2.gif
> @@@end before start
>   end:   Thu Jan 08 21:37:58 CST 1998
>   request size: -1
>   reply size: -1
> ======= w3c.jigsaw.http.Client: client-1(socket-clients:20),
> contentLength=13166, size sent=13166: request
> http://www.consumerworld.org/gifs/conglox2.gif, duration = 781 

This one is really strange, I did the same test, accessing the same page 
through a proxy and displaying the size of the reply in the 
outgoingFilter (your afterGET seems to be the outgoingFilter).
and I have the right value (Reply:13166). Of course I have -1 for their 
home page as they don't send the Content-Length header:

11:32 tarantula ~ 78 >telnet www.consumerworld.org 80
Connected to consumer.baweb.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
Host: www.consumerworld.org
Connection: close

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: Netscape-Enterprise/2.0a
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:24:39 GMT
Content-type: text/html

Connection closed by foreign host.

The only size you must use is the one taken from the Reply of the 
outgoingFilter, as it doesn't have more headers than the ones the 
remote server has sent. You may want to calculate the real number of 
bytes transferred, but then you need to add all the headers of the 
reply/request. (If your goal is to calculate the real bandwith with 
remote servers).

> ...
> ======= w3c.jigsaw.http.Client: client-3(socket-clients:18),
> contentLength=2993, size sent=2993: request
> http://www.consumerworld.org/gifs/marqpric.gif, duration = 621
> Note that there is a second problem with the duration of the downloads. The
> end times of both replies are after the start of the download of
> www.consumerworld.org. The start and end times were obtrained from
> request.getDate() and reply.getDate(), respectively, for the request in the
> beforeGET() method and the reply in the afterGET() method.

The date on the remote host seems to be incorrect, my telnet request was 
done a 10:32 GMT and the server answered 10:24:39 GMT
So the calculation of the time delta during the transaction is wrong. The 
best way is to use a start time when you go through the ingoingFilter, an 
end time in the outgoing and do the difference with the same time reference.
Otherwise, as the times are taken from the headers, it can be wrong.

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