Re: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference - 18 December 2025

My apologies and regrets -- I obviously read Joel's message of the
15th too quickly and interpreted "Reminder: The next two meetings are
canceled for the holidays." as canceling the December 18th meeting.
Rereading it now, I understand that was just a note for mentioning/
discussing during the meeting, but too late for that now.
Happy whatever you are celebrating, best wishes for 2026, and see you
all on January 8th.

    john

--On Friday, December 19, 2025 08:57 +0800 Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>
wrote:

> https://www.w3.org/2025/12/18-i18n-minutes.html
> 
> Here is the meeting summary:
> 
> Quick recap
> 
> The meeting focused on reviewing and discussing various documents
> and specifications, including the charter. The group decided to
> move two documents, String Meta and charmod-norm, to the REC-track
> in the new charter. We also discussed the need for testability in
> specifications and the importance of providing clear advice to
> authors. The WG agreed to postpone further discussions on search
> engine crawling and indexing to their next meeting on January 8th.
> 
> Next steps
> 
> Addison: Send email to Google/ECMA contacts regarding W3C activity
> wins and set up a call with relevant stakeholders (Bob, Mark,
> Novosha) after the holidays to discuss ECMA repo automation
> Fuqiao (xfq): File an issue with RDF WG to propose adding a note
> about handling inline directional changes in RDF 1.2 concepts spec,
> referencing String Meta and Unicode/HTML resources
> Eemeli: Present request for review/comment on TC39 262 proposal at
> the January 8th meeting
> Addison: Ping PLH again regarding XML errata
> Addison/Manish: Have conversation about locale
> Fuqiao (xfq): Present request about search engine crawling/indexing
> and language negotiation article at next meeting (January 8th)
> Fuqiao (xfq): Complete review of i18n request #286 (RDF semantics)
> 
> Summary
> 
> Year-End Meeting and Action Review
> 
> The team reviewed their agenda, including action items, information
> sharing, and radar pending issues. Addison added a topic on search
> engine crawling and indexing at Fuqiao's request. Addison noted
> this was their last meeting for the calendar year, with the next
> call in three weeks. The team discussed the importance of reviewing
> the charter within the next month, as they may only have one chance
> before submitting it to the AC. Addison mentioned sending an email
> to Martin but clarified the action item's goal was to receive a
> response, which was still pending.
> 
> ECMAScript Automation Progress Review
> 
> The team discussed progress on ECMAScript repository automation and
> reviewed several agenda items. Eemeli explained that while they
> couldn't effectively cover ECMA-402 integration in the last TC39
> TG2 call due to time constraints, they could proceed manually for
> now. Addison agreed to add an agenda item for Eemeli's import text
> UTF-8 parsing proposal to the next meeting in February. The team
> also discussed item 187, with Addison working on an email to
> demonstrate the benefits of W3C activity and potential wins, though
> this would likely happen after the holidays with a call involving
> Bob, Mark, and possibly Novosha.
> 
> HTML Ruby Document Separation Agreement
> 
> The group discussed the relationship between the /TR/ruby/ and the
> new HTML Ruby extensions document, agreeing with Richard's comment
> that the old document should not be wiped out and should remain
> separate from the new one. They decided to formally document this
> consensus in the minutes, with Addison writing the proposal and
> requesting votes. The group also confirmed that the short name for
> the new document would remain html-ruby-extensions.
> 
> RDF Directionality and Unicode Handling
> 
> The group discussed RDF 1.2's new directional language tagged
> strings and how inline directional changes are handled. Addison
> clarified that strings in RDF are treated as strings without
> markup, and inline directionality is likely managed through
> Unicode. The discussion touched on how RDF's approach addresses
> string meta's concerns about defining the base direction and
> language of strings, though it doesn't delve into inline changes.
> Eemeli raised a question about potentially introducing a new
> Unicode directionality control to simplify the problem, which had
> not been mentioned in the string meta discussions.
> 
> String Metadata and Directionality Controls
> 
> The team discussed string metadata and directionality controls,
> agreeing that external metadata is preferable to inserting
> directionality markers into strings. They decided to add a note to
> the RDF concepts specification, similar to the one in string meta,
> pointing to basic introduction materials and linking to relevant
> articles about inline markup and bidirectional text in HTML. Fuqiao
> will propose the text for the note and file the issue with the
> specification team.
> 
> Document Track Status Discussion
> 
> The WG discussed the status of several documents, focusing on
> whether to move them from the REC-track to the Note Track. They
> agreed that the "Best Practices for XML Internationalization"
> document, written by Richard et al, should remain a Note rather
> than being promoted to a Recommendation, as it is aimed at authors
> rather than specification writers. The team decided to postpone any
> potential conversion of this document to the REC-track for a future
> charter, and noted that this was not a complete list of all their
> notes, with some older documents like Web Services
> Internationalization being intentionally skipped.
> 
> Charter Deliverables Selection Discussion
> 
> The WG discussed which documents to include as deliverables in
> their charter, ultimately deciding to propose only the Character
> Model and String Matching documents for the REC-track, while
> keeping other documents as non-normative guidance. They agreed to
> proceed with a two-stage approach where documents can be included
> in the charter without being immediately placed on the REC-track.
>

Received on Friday, 19 December 2025 02:34:13 UTC