[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2024-10-17

https://www.w3.org/2024/10/17-i18n-minutes.html





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                              – DRAFT –
            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

17 October 2024

    [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

       [2] 
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/bc275b6e-6c38-4ed5-b324-6606a0c6cca7/20241017T150000/
       [3] https://www.w3.org/2024/10/17-i18n-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Addison, Bert, Fuqiao, JcK, Richard

    Regrets
           -

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           xfq

Contents

     1. [4]Agenda Review
     2. [5]Action Items
     3. [6]Info Share
     4. [7]RADAR Review
     5. [8]Pending Issue Review
     6. [9]Payments meeting
     7. [10]CSS meeting
     8. [11]specdev #77
     9. [12]String-Meta, Localizable Manifests, Specdev
    10. [13]AOB?

Meeting minutes

   Agenda Review

   Action Items

    <addison> #136

    <gb> [14]Issue 136 follow up on XML errata (by aphillips)
    [task]

      [14] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/136

    <addison> #135

    <gb> [15]Action 135 follow up on XR issue 1393 about locale in
    session (on aphillips) due 2024-10-17

      [15] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/135

    addison: I sent an email to PLH but he hasn't written back

    <addison> #134

    <gb> [16]Action 134 file an issue about making input respect
    locale (on aphillips) due 2024-10-05

      [16] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/134

    addison: so I need to follow up

    <addison> #133

    <gb> [17]Action 133 tidy specdev PR#77 (on r12a) due 2024-10-04

      [17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/133

    <addison> close #133

    <gb> Closed [18]issue #133

      [18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/133

    r12a: done #133

    <gb> [19]CLOSED Action 77 create an issue against html
    requesting the list of named entities based on work in action
    73 (on r12a) due 2024-03-07

      [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/77

    <addison> #131

    <gb> [20]Action 131 follow up on input-events action (on
    aphillips)

      [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/131

    <addison> #128

    <gb> [21]Action 128 perform review of issues for inclusion in
    specdev (on xfq) due 2024-09-30

      [21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/128

    <addison> #127

    <gb> [22]Action 127 make a list of shared topics of interest
    between TG2 and W3C-I18N (on aphillips) due 2024-09-30

      [22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/127

    <addison> #125

    <gb> [23]Action 125 propose creating a UTR for text-emphasis
    skip if we can get help with maintain (on aphillips) due
    2024-09-30

      [23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/125

    xfq: still pending, on my todo list

    <addison> #115

    <gb> [24]Action 115 review i18n-activity#1783 (on r12a) due
    2024-08-22

      [24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/115

    <addison> #114

    <gb> [25]Action 114 read through i18n-activity#1659 and report
    on whether we're satisfied (on r12a) due 2024-08-22

      [25] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/114

    <addison> #90

    <gb> [26]Action 90 steal some of henri's text from
    scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due
    2024-04-18

      [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/90

    <addison> #89

    <gb> [27]Action 89 update i18n specs to support dark mode (on
    xfq) due 2024-04-18

      [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/89

    <addison> #33

    <gb> [28]Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG
    for further review (on aphillips)

      [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33

    <addison> #8

    <gb> [29]Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and
    formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023

      [29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8

    <addison> #7

    <gb> [30]Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting
    comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin,
    r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023

      [30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7

    <addison> #4

    <gb> [31]Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the
    character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on aphillips,
    r12a) due 27 Jul 2023

      [31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4

    r12a: I was asking for clarification on what he's looking for
    … he says he wants images and tests

   Info Share

    xfq: next week is UTW 2024

    addison: I have not one but two presentations and one of them
    is all about string-meta
    … the other is MessageFormat

   RADAR Review

    <r12a> [32]https://w3c.social/@webi18n/113288032004697117

      [32] https://w3c.social/@webi18n/113288032004697117

    <addison> [33]https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1

      [33] https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1

   Pending Issue Review

    <gb> [34]CLOSED Action 77 create an issue against html
    requesting the list of named entities based on work in action
    73 (on r12a) due 2024-03-07

      [34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/77

   Payments meeting

    addison: I had a call yesterday with Ian and Marcos about the
    Payment Request
    … they're bringing addresses back
    … they farmed off a bunch of things to the contact picker API

    addison: we had a long discussion about the challenge of
    structuring or not structuring those
    … so you may see a resurrection of a bunch of issues under the
    spec contact picker
    … in the near future

   CSS meeting

    addison: that document has no editor
    … we reviewed all of the issues open

    [35]https://www.w3.org/2024/10/15-i18n-minutes.html

      [35] https://www.w3.org/2024/10/15-i18n-minutes.html

    [36]w3c/csswg-drafts#10803

      [36] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/10803

    <gb> [37]Issue 10803 [css-text-4] [text-autospace] Spacing
    across element boundaries for BiDi content (by vitorroriz)
    [css-text-4] [Agenda+] [i18n-tracker] [Agenda+ i18n]

      [37] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/10803

    xfq: @@1

    addison: re UTR for the text-emphasis skip property
    … what Unicode needs is an editor for the document
    … that would be a Unicode editor but realistically they're
    looking for a volunteer to do it
    … in practice, there's no work

   specdev #77

    <gb> [38]CLOSED Action 77 create an issue against html
    requesting the list of named entities based on work in action
    73 (on r12a) due 2024-03-07

      [38] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/77

    addison: because Unicode isn't assigning any more chars that in
    general that need any attention
    … but if they just want to maintain it in their own space, I
    can't make them do the other

    <addison> [39]w3c/bp-i18n-specdev#138

      [39] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/138

    <gb> [40]Pull Request 138 Change default direction
    recommendation from LTR to auto. (by r12a)

      [40] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/138

    r12a: files changed: 1, words changed: 1

    addison: merged

    <gb> [41]CLOSED Action 77 create an issue against html
    requesting the list of named entities based on work in action
    73 (on r12a) due 2024-03-07

      [41] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/77

   String-Meta, Localizable Manifests, Specdev

    <addison> [42]w3c/string-meta#89

      [42] https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/89

    <gb> [43]Pull Request 89 Address #88: Add WebIDL for
    LanguageMap, LanguageRecord, LanguageEntry and clean up
    appendix (by aphillips)

      [43] https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/89

    addison: I have a list of things
    … the first one is this PR
    … against string-meta
    … which I would really love to incorporate
    … this adds Web IDL to all of the structures we defined in
    string-meta

    <addison> [44]https://
    deploy-preview-89--string-meta.netlify.app/

      [44] https://deploy-preview-89--string-meta.netlify.app/

    addison: so that people can reference the Web IDL

    xfq: haven't reviewed it yet

    r12a: I don't have any comments
    … and it looks very pretty

    <r12a> +1 to merge

    addison: since this is a work in progress, would you mind if I
    checked it in?

    <Bert> +1

    xfq: +1

    <addison> [45]w3c/bp-i18n-specdev#136

      [45] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/136

    <gb> [46]Pull Request 136 Change the guidelines about
    establishing base direction and mention ALM (by aphillips)

      [46] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/136

    addison: I've started to go through the issues we have open
    against specdev
    … I started at the bottom because some of those are quite old
    … adding ALM
    … we've talked about this before

    <addison> [47]https://
    deploy-preview-136--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#rlmlrm

      [47] 
https://deploy-preview-136--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#rlmlrm

    addison: at this group's behest, I added examples of ALM
    behaviour vs non-ALM behaviour

    r12a: when creating examples with Arabic, it's usually a bad
    idea to allow that example to break across a line because weird
    things happen

    addison: it doesn't break for me

    [Discuss the behaviour in different browsers]

    r12a: it should be right aligned

    addison: I'll fix up the table

    <addison> [48]w3c/localizable-manifests#19

      [48] https://github.com/w3c/localizable-manifests/pull/19

    <gb> [49]Pull Request 19 Fix #13: broken links (by aphillips)

      [49] https://github.com/w3c/localizable-manifests/pull/19

    addison: next one should be easy
    … this is a PR to fix links that are broken
    … I remarked previously that I intend to come back and do some
    more work on localizable manifests
    … any objection to merging this?

    addison: when we're done, I intend to push a bunch of our
    recently updated documents up to /TR
    … we discussed last week pushing glossary up as note status
    … as opposed to draft note
    … I noticed that specdev is also draft note
    … should we push it up as note?
    … I'll make the necessary changes as we go and push things up
    … so I may do quick and dirty PRs to change the status
    … if you're going to UTW, I'll see you next week

   AOB?

    <Najib> The groups are chartered through 16 October 2027.

    <Najib> [50]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/
    www-international/2024OctDec/0019.html

      [50] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2024OctDec/0019.html

    r12a: do we have a meeting next week?

    addison: I intend to have a meeting next week
    … although xfq will be in the sky or the Transportation
    Security Administration

    r12a: and Bert and I will be on Geek Week

    addison: do you all want to skip a week?

    Bert: I'd like to, yes

    addison: all right, so our next call will be on the 31st of
    October
    … Halloween

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