[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2024-08-29

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                              – DRAFT –
            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

29 August 2024

    [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

       [2] 
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/bc275b6e-6c38-4ed5-b324-6606a0c6cca7/20240829T150000/
       [3] https://www.w3.org/2024/08/29-i18n-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Addison, Bert, Fuqiao, JcK, r12a

    Regrets
           -

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           Bert

Contents

     1. [4]Agenda Review
     2. [5]Action Items
     3. [6]Info Share
     4. [7]RADAR Review
     5. [8]Pending Issue Review
     6. [9]date/time PR
     7. [10]AOB?

Meeting minutes

   Agenda Review

   Action Items

    <addison> [11]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues

      [11] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues

    <addison> #117

    <gb> [12]Action 117 review css 4154 :lang() selector
    canonicalization (on aphillips) due 2024-08-29

      [12] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/117

    <addison> #115

    <gb> [13]Action 115 review i18n-activity#1783 (on r12a) due
    2024-08-22

      [13] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/115

    <addison> [14]i18n-activity#1783

      [14] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1783

    <gb> [15]Issue 1783 CSS `text-spacing` property and its
    longhands (by w3cbot) [close?] [tracker] [s:css-text]
    [needs-attention] [tag-tracker] [other:tag]

      [15] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1783

    r12a: Trying to remember what it is about.
    … Not done yet.

    <addison> #114

    <gb> [16]Action 114 read through i18n-activity#1659 and report
    on whether we're satisfied (on r12a) due 2024-08-22

      [16] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/114

    r12a: Not yet.

    <addison> #113

    <gb> [17]Action 113 publish counter styles with zhuyin counter
    style included (on r12a) due 2024-08-22

      [17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/113

    r12a: Done

    <addison> close #113

    <gb> Closed [18]issue #113

      [18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/113

    <addison> #90

    <gb> [19]Action 90 steal some of henri's text from
    scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due
    2024-04-18

      [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/90

    addison: Not finished.

    <addison> #89

    <gb> [20]Action 89 update i18n specs to support dark mode (on
    xfq) due 2024-04-18

      [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/89

    xfq: I discussed with CSS folks.
    … The respec people think it is blocked on CSS, and vice-versa.
    … It may just be more verbose than they like.
    … CSS people don't think it should be blocked on CSS
    … I'll talk again with ReSpec.

    addison: I'll remove the blocked label

    <addison> #33

    <gb> [21]Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG
    for further review (on aphillips)

      [21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33

    addison: We triaged recently, I'll continue.

    <addison> #8

    <gb> [22]Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and
    formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023

      [22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8

    addison: Not yet

    <addison> #7

    <gb> [23]Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting
    comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin,
    r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023

      [23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7

    <addison> #4

    No requests to close things filed this week.

    <gb> [24]Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the
    character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on aphillips,
    r12a) due 27 Jul 2023

      [24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4

    addison: I owe some feedback. Will take a look.

   Info Share

    xfq: I registered for UNicode tech workshop

    addison: It's open until end of this month.

    r12a: I will not be at TPAC.

    addison: Join by video?

    r12a: I'll look at the agenda.

   RADAR Review

    <addison> [25]https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1

      [25] https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1

    Bert: ACT review not yet done.

    addison: No new requests.

    r12a: I thought I saw a new request this morning?

    addison: Didn't see any, let me look...

    <addison> [26]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues

      [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues

    <r12a> [27]w3c/i18n-request#237 (comment)

      [27] 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/237#issuecomment-2317123806

    <gb> [28]Issue 237 Guidance on Applying WCAG 2 to Non-Web
    Information and Communications Technologies (WCAG2ICT)
    2024-07-02 > 2024-08-06 (by daniel-montalvo) [REVIEW REQUESTED]
    [WD]

      [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/237

    People looking at why that message is not on incoming
    requests...

    xfq: Because we already reviewed it. It is in the "awaiting"
    column

    addison: Started looking at WebXR review. Maybe next week.

   Pending Issue Review

   date/time PR

    <xfq> [29]w3c/i18n-drafts#327

      [29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/327

    <gb> [30]Pull Request 327 Add info about HTML and JS new
    features (by xfq)

      [30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/327

    addison: I didn't finish my review, so didn't publish yet.

    addison: Touched on long-staning tension in HTML: should native
    controls follow the locale of the browser or the locale of the
    page?
    … User may be looking at a French page in a browser in a
    US-English locale, which resutls in confusing ordering, e.g.

    xfq: Do we have issues already open on this?

    addison: Yes, we do.

    <addison> [31]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/
    issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3As%3Ahtml+date

      [31] 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:s:html+date

    <addison> [32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/
    issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3As%3Ahtml+time

      [32] 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:s:html+time

    xfq: That's about plain text, not about a control.

    addison: Related. People may put JavaScript in their pages that
    give differently localized content.
    … Ths issus is touching on fairly diverse, complicated things.
    We may want to narrow the scope.
    … I see you changed the description.

    xfq: An alternative is to keep the scope and write a new
    article about how users enter a dat. And link the two articles
    together.

    <addison> [33]https://w3c.github.io/timezone/

      [33] https://w3c.github.io/timezone/

    addison: If you use <input type=> with various time formats,
    you'll get ISO8601. If you make a new control you should do so
    that you get the same.
    … ^^ shows various serializations you can use.

    xfq: OK
    … Do you want to add more comments?

    addison: I'll push. I may also add more comments.
    … Do other people want to review?
    … I'd like to replace date and time with something like that
    editors' draft above. So comments on it are welcome.

    xfq: We can add more information when the JavaScript API is
    ready.

   AOB?

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