[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2024-08-22

https://www.w3.org/2024/08/22-i18n-minutes.html





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                              – DRAFT –
            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

22 August 2024

    [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

       [2] 
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/bc275b6e-6c38-4ed5-b324-6606a0c6cca7/20240822T150000/
       [3] https://www.w3.org/2024/08/22-i18n-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Addison, atsushi, Bert, Fuqiao, JcK, r12a

    Regrets
           -

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           xfq, addison

Contents

     1. [4]Agenda Review
     2. [5]Action Items
     3. [6]Info Share
     4. [7]RADAR Review
     5. [8]Pending Issue Review
     6. [9]I18N+CSS Follow up
     7. [10]input type=email discussion
     8. [11]string-search
     9. [12]AOB?
    10. [13]Summary of action items

Meeting minutes

   Agenda Review

   Action Items

    <addison> #90

    <gb> [14]Action 90 steal some of henri's text from
    scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due
    2024-04-18

      [14] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/90

    <addison> [15]w3c/string-search#23

      [15] https://github.com/w3c/string-search/pull/23

    <gb> [16]Pull Request 23 Address I18N-ACTION-90 by adding text
    from scroll-to-text-fragment#233 (by aphillips)

      [16] https://github.com/w3c/string-search/pull/23

    addison: #90, still open

    <addison> #33

    <gb> [17]Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG
    for further review (on aphillips)

      [17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33

    <addison> #16

    <gb> [18]Action 16 Keep track of line-breaking in Korean for
    i18n-discuss#11 (on aphillips) due 1 Jan 2024

      [18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/16

    <addison> #8

    <gb> [19]Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and
    formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023

      [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8

    addison: #33, nothing interesting there

    <addison> #7

    <gb> [20]Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting
    comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin,
    r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023

      [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7

    <addison> #4

    <gb> [21]Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the
    character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on aphillips,
    r12a) due 27 Jul 2023

      [21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4

   Info Share

    addison: #4, I pinged Sid
    … he has a PR
    … I'll be looking at that shortly
    … UTW 2 has extended its deadline for accepting submissions
    … they also have an early bird registration that runs out at
    the end of the month

   RADAR Review

    <addison> [22]https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1

      [22] https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1

    addison: WebXR Device API

    atsushi: I made that issue
    … I believe there is no natural language

    addison: I'll take it

   Pending Issue Review

    addison: Accessibility Conformance Testing (ACT) Rules Format
    1.1?

    Bert: not yet

   I18N+CSS Follow up

    [23]https://www.w3.org/2024/08/20-i18n-minutes.html

      [23] https://www.w3.org/2024/08/20-i18n-minutes.html

    [24]w3c/csswg-drafts#4154

      [24] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4154

    <gb> [25]Issue 4154 Consider Canonicalization of language tags
    in :lang() selector maching (by frivoal) [selectors-4]
    [i18n-tracker] [Needs Review of Proposed Text] [selectors-5]
    [Agenda+ i18n]

      [25] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4154

    <addison> xfq: one thing that probably important to mention is
    about this issue ^^

    <addison> ... they have a PR to fix this

    <addison> ... and it was merged, but they wanted a review first
    before closing

    [26]https://drafts.csswg.org/selectors-4/#the-lang-pseudo
The element’s content language matches a language range if its content l
anguage, as represented in BCP 47 syntax, matches the given language ran
ge in an extended filtering operation per [RFC4647] Matching of Language
  Tags (section 3.3.2). Both the content language and the language range
must be canonicalized and converted to extlang form as per
section 4.5 of [RFC5646] prior to the extended filtering operation. The
matching is performed case-insensitively within the ASCII range.

      [26] https://drafts.csswg.org/selectors-4/#the-lang-pseudo

    ACTION: addison: review css 4154 :lang() selector
    canonicalization

    <gb> Created [27]action #117

      [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/117

    <addison> xfq: also had some discussion about characters to
    skip for emphasis marks, who should maintain Unicode or CSS

    addison: Unicode was not delighted by the idea of maintaining
    something particularly if it might be specialized to something
    like CSS

    xfq: but it's not specific to CSS

    addison: it seems to be specific to emphasis everywhere

   input type=email discussion

    [28]whatwg/html#10522

      [28] https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/10522

    <gb> [29]Pull Request 10522 Add support for internationalized
    email addresses (by aphillips) [i18n-tracker]

      [29] https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/10522

    addison: Henri seems to be productively engaged with it
    … so I need to go through his comments and make revisions
    … it looks like progress
    … @@1

   string-search

    [30]w3c/string-search#23

      [30] https://github.com/w3c/string-search/pull/23

    <gb> [31]Pull Request 23 Address I18N-ACTION-90 by adding text
    from scroll-to-text-fragment#233 (by aphillips)

      [31] https://github.com/w3c/string-search/pull/23

    [32]https://deploy-preview-23--w3c-string-search.netlify.app/

      [32] https://deploy-preview-23--w3c-string-search.netlify.app/

    addison: a lot of the changes go into the top of section 2
    … where I'm describing what substring match is
    … and at the very bottom of the document, currently, which
    should be an appendix, @@2

    [33]https://
    deploy-preview-23--w3c-string-search.netlify.app/#text-frag-lan
    g

      [33] 
https://deploy-preview-23--w3c-string-search.netlify.app/#text-frag-lang

   AOB?

    [34]w3c/i18n-drafts#327

      [34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/327

    <gb> [35]Pull Request 327 Add info about HTML and JS new
    features (by xfq)

      [35] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/327

    [36]https://deploy-preview-327--i18n-drafts.netlify.app/
    questions/qa-date-format.en

      [36] 
https://deploy-preview-327--i18n-drafts.netlify.app/questions/qa-date-format.en

    xfq: please review this ^

    addison: I don't see temporal mentioned in a scroll

    xfq: I chose not to mention Temporal when I raised the PR,
    because I wanted to wait until there are at least two shipping
    implementations

    addison: what you might want to mention is that there's work
    coming
    … or that this article doesn't talk about temporal

    r12a: do we know which browser engines currently support
    temporal?

    [37]https://caniuse.com/mdn-javascript_builtins_temporal

      [37] https://caniuse.com/mdn-javascript_builtins_temporal

    <r12a> [38]https://caniuse.com/temporal

      [38] https://caniuse.com/temporal

    addison: it's 0%

    r12a: Opera Mini supports it?

    xfq: it's unknown

    xfq: added a Preview link to the first comment

Summary of action items

     1. [39]addison: review css 4154 :lang() selector
        canonicalization

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