- From: Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 16:13:39 +0800
- To: www-international@w3.org
https://www.w3.org/2024/08/08-i18n-minutes.html
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– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
08 August 2024
[2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.
[2]
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/bc275b6e-6c38-4ed5-b324-6606a0c6cca7/20240808T150000/
[3] https://www.w3.org/2024/08/08-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Bert, Fuqiao, Richard
Regrets
JcK
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Bert
Contents
1. [4]Agenda Review
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]RADAR Review
5. [8]Pending Issue Review
6. [9]Programmatically determine the language of text
(WCAG2ICT)
7. [10]AOB?
Meeting minutes
Agenda Review
Action Items
<addison> #90
<gb> [11]Action 90 steal some of henri's text from
scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due
2024-04-18
[11] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/90
<addison> #33
<gb> [12]Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG
for further review (on aphillips)
[12] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33
addison: Probably an agenda item next week.
<addison> #16
<gb> [13]Action 16 Keep track of line-breaking in Korean for
i18n-discuss#11 (on aphillips) due 1 Jan 2024
[13] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/16
<addison> #8
<gb> [14]Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and
formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023
[14] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8
<addison> #7
<gb> [15]Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting
comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin,
r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023
[15] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7
<addison> #4
<gb> [16]Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the
character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on aphillips,
r12a) due 27 Jul 2023
[16] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4
Info Share
RADAR Review
<addison> [17]https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1
[17] https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1
xfq: I raised an issue on WCAG2 and got a reply.
addison: Atsushi said he had no issues on Incremental Font
Transfer, but maybe he had one after all.
… I'll make it a pending issue to discuss next week.
Pending Issue Review
<addison> [18]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending
[18]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:pending
addison: Moving all my Infra issues to Infra land. Otherwise
nothing stands out.
<addison> [19]i18n-activity#1870
[19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1870
<gb> [20]Issue 1870 [css-content] Styling applied to a quoted
element should not affect the quotation marks (by w3cbot)
[pending] [s:css-content] [needs-resolution] [wg:css]
[20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1870
addison: Not sure about #1870.
<gb> Issue 1870 not found
<addison> [21]w3c/csswg-drafts#10468
[21] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/10468
<gb> [22]Issue 10468 [css-content] Styling applied to a quoted
element should not affect the quotation marks (by r12a)
[css-content-3] [i18n-needs-resolution]
[22] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/10468
r12a: Related to the long-running discussion on quotes. But not
quite the same.
addison: I think we'll agree. I'll remove "pending".
r12a: It needs some other labels. Adding them now.
Programmatically determine the language of text (WCAG2ICT)
<xfq> [23]w3c/wcag2ict#463
[23] https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/issues/463
<gb> [24]Issue 463 Programmatically determine the language of
text (by xfq) [i18n-needs-resolution]
[24] https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/issues/463
xfq: We discussed this before. I'm asking them what they are
trying to accomplish.
… Is it heuristic determination of language? What about the
exception list?
… It is about whether the assistive tech can determine the
language, from markup or any other means.
… If it can, the success criteria succeed.
… They didn't answer why the exception list.
addison: the explanation from Gregg is clearer than the text in
the spec.
… But the exception list is still there.
xfq: I can ask them about the list of exceptions.
… Should we ask them to add a note to explain about what
"programmatically determined" is? They have a definition, but
maybe it is not clear enough.
… Another option is to switch to a different term.
addison: I'd argue with their exception list.
… Assume you have a paragraph marked as French and a proper
name inside it. That proper name is still in French.
<xfq> [25]https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/
[25] https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/
xfq: The text is from WCAG, with "non-web document" replacing
"content" there.
addison: APIs can provide language metadata.
xfq: One thing we can do is ask about the list of exceptions.
addison: Maybe we discussed this in the past already. Would
need to look at old issues.
<xfq> [26]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+label%3As%3Awcag+language+
[26]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+label:s:wcag+language+
<xfq> [27]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+label%3As%3Awcag
[27]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+label:s:wcag
xfq: ^ this is the list of issues on GitHub, but maybe it was
before we used GitHub.
addison: Maybe they should add something to the note avout what
is going on, in particular the list of exceptions.
<r12a> [28]w3c/i18n-activity#1882
[28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1882
<gb> [29]Issue 1882 Programmatically determine the language of
text (by xfq) [needs-resolution] [t:lang_strings] [wg:ag]
[s:wcag2ict]
[29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1882
xfq: I'll add a comment.
AOB?
Bert: regrets for next week
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