- From: Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 11:35:38 +0800
- To: www-international@w3.org
https://www.w3.org/2024/02/22-i18n-minutes.html text version: – DRAFT – Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 22 February 2024 [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log. [2] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6d544156-352c-46f2-b6ec-383b4e2462fb/20240222T150000/ [3] https://www.w3.org/2024/02/22-i18n-irc Attendees Present Addison, Atsushi, Bert, Fuqiao, Richard Regrets - Chair Addison Phillips Scribe xfq Contents 1. [4]Agenda Review 2. [5]Action Items 3. [6]Info Share 4. [7]RADAR Review 5. [8]RADAR Review 6. [9]Pending Issue Review 7. [10]String-Meta and the problem of 'paragraph direction' 8. [11]Follow up on I18N + CSS Call 9. [12]IDN in Specdev 10. [13]Prepare for WHATWG Call 11. [14]AOB? 12. [15]Summary of action items Meeting minutes <gb> [16]Action 73 make a list of invisible characters to support html 5121 discussion (on r12a) due 2024-02-22 [16] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/73 Agenda Review <gb> [17]Action 73 make a list of invisible characters to support html 5121 discussion (on r12a) due 2024-02-22 [17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/73 Action Items <gb> Found actions in w3c/i18n-actions: #74, #73, #72, #68, #66, #64, #53, #43, #35, #33, #18, #16, #12, #11, #8, #7, #4 <addison> #73 <addison> close #73 <gb> Closed [18]issue #73 [18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/73 <addison> #72 <gb> [19]Action 72 update specdev to match string-meta with string/block direction as appropriate (on aphillips) due 2024-02-22 [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/72 r12a: I wonder whether we should put the information in #73 somewhere else addison: why don't we discuss with the WHATWG … depending on what the result is, we can put it somewhere <addison> #66 <gb> [20]Action 66 fix base direction vs. paragraph direction in string-meta (on aphillips) due 2024-01-18 [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/66 <addison> #64 <gb> [21]Action 64 Make list of HTML issues for February 22 call with WHATWG (on aphillips, xfq) [21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/64 <addison> close #64 <gb> Closed [22]issue #64 [22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/64 <addison> #43 <gb> [23]Action 43 pull together the list of win/mac/etc apis for setting base direction and/or language (on aphillips) due 2023-09-18 [23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/43 <addison> #33 <gb> [24]Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips) [24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33 <addison> #12 <gb> [25]Action 12 Upgrade/edit the explainer to address issues raised by google (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023 [25] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/12 <addison> #8 <gb> [26]Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023 [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8 <addison> #7 <gb> [27]Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023 [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7 <addison> #4 <gb> [28]Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on r12a) due 27 Jul 2023 [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4 Info Share Bert: the MessageFormat presentation was about what I expected … it was interesting RADAR Review <addison> [29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 [29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 Bert: WebNN and MathML not finished addison: I have ARIA 1.3 RADAR Review addison: I would appreciate any other pairs of eyes Pending Issue Review <gb> [30]CLOSED Action 73 make a list of invisible characters to support html 5121 discussion (on r12a) due 2024-02-22 [30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/73 String-Meta and the problem of 'paragraph direction' addison: last week we discussed the term 'paragraph direction' … we discussed replacing that with 'block direction' or 'string direction' as a term … our glossary definition comes from Unicode … so it's a Unicode term … should we create new competing but better terminology? r12a: I think we could say this is known as paragraph direction addison: I can put 'block direction' or 'string direction' in our glossary and say 'see paragraph direction' … with our explanation of what the term means above that r12a: I still think 'paragraph direction' is not clear enough addison: I agree … I'll working on doing it that way … any objections to that? Follow up on I18N + CSS Call <addison> [31]https://www.w3.org/2024/02/20-i18n-minutes.html [31] https://www.w3.org/2024/02/20-i18n-minutes.html IDN in Specdev <addison> xfq: since we have some specs like rdf that refers to punycode <addison> ... wonder if it is useful to add best practices related to idns <addison> ... opinions? <addison> ... is it useful and if so what to add and where? [32]w3c/bp-i18n-specdev#119 [32] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/issues/119 <gb> [33]Issue 119 Best practice related to IDNs (by xfq) [enhancement] [33] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/issues/119 <addison> [34]https://www.w3.org/TR/ international-specs/#resid_misc [34] https://www.w3.org/TR/international-specs/#resid_misc addison: I think we have something in specdev today … see ^ … maybe that needs a little attention ACTION: xfq: work on developing new specdev material about IDNs/domain names/etc. <gb> Created [35]action #75 [35] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/75 Prepare for WHATWG Call addison: I'll incorporate the discussion of invisible characters <addison> * Harmonization/cooperation between Infra and I18N-Glossary * Input type=email (#4562 + PR #5799) * Additional named entities (#5121) <gb> Issue 4562 not found <gb> Issue 5121 not found <gb> Issue 5799 not found addison: I propose that we discuss 3 topics … see ^ <addison> [36]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/ issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AAgenda%2BI18N%2BWHATWG [36] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:Agenda+I18N+WHATWG addison: and if we have time, we can go on to time-related issues and several input type=date/time issues <addison> [37]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/ issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Awhatwg [37] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:whatwg r12a: I think we need to change the order of these things … because the harmonization issue is not too long <r12a> [38]w3c/i18n-actions#73 [38] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/73 <gb> [39]CLOSED Action 73 make a list of invisible characters to support html 5121 discussion (on r12a) due 2024-02-22 [39] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/73 r12a: Input type=email is essentially a very long discussion … and the additional named entities will probably be quite short … it took a little while to figure out how to get a list of invisible characters … I trimmed out some obvious things like PUA characters … and some characters you don't really want to create entities for them … and I created a priority items list … these are the things I'd really like to have if nothing else Bert: one thing I often use is the variation selector for the colour of emojis … VS16 (U+FE0F) for emoji with color or VS15 (U+FE0E) for monochrome addison: what else do we want to say about this list? addison: I suspect any of these conversations could be short … I'm hopeful John can join us … if you can't type some emails this makes this element less useful <xfq> +1 addison: the other thing is infra vs glossary … I made an assertion in our issue that there are places where people want to use terminology and don't want to reference Infra … like RDF … whereas the folks we're talking to say everyone should just use Infra … we have a lot of terminology that people needed to use that doesn't belong to Infra r12a: there's also a qualitative difference … we sometimes have additional examples or explanations addison: we do have definitions in common … we should have some process of ensuring that we don't conflict each other … and we want to avoid situations where we export a term that is in Infra <gb> [40]CLOSED Action 73 make a list of invisible characters to support html 5121 discussion (on r12a) due 2024-02-22 [40] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/73 AOB? Summary of action items 1. [41]xfq: work on developing new specdev material about IDNs/domain names/etc.
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