- From: Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 10:07:51 +0800
- To: www-international@w3.org
https://www.w3.org/2024/06/06-i18n-minutes.html
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– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
06 June 2024
[2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.
[2]
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6d544156-352c-46f2-b6ec-383b4e2462fb/20240606T150000/
[3] https://www.w3.org/2024/06/06-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Atsushi, JcK, Richard
Regrets
Fuqiao
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison, atsushi
Contents
1. [4]Agenda Review
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]RADAR Review
5. [8]Pending Issue Review
6. [9]Kashmiri/Uighur/Urdu FPWD
7. [10]String direction APIs
8. [11]String-Meta Consumer guidance PR
9. [12]Kashmiri/Uighur/Urdu FPWD
10. [13]AOB?
11. [14]Summary of action items
12. [15]Summary of resolutions
Meeting minutes
Agenda Review
addison: got one additional item from r12a
… anything else?
Action Items
[16]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues
[16] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues
#103
<gb> [17]Action 103 Migrate RADAR project (on aphillips)
[17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/103
#102
<gb> [18]Action 102 ping alreq group to review our
i18n-activity#1620 (on aphillips) due 2024-05-30
[18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/102
#100
<gb> [19]Action 100 complain to plh about the new IRC tool (on
aphillips) due 2024-05-30
[19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/100
close #100
<gb> Closed [20]issue #100
[20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/100
r12a: irc client looks similar to webirc one
#99
<gb> [21]Action 99 ping unicode about emphasis skip property
(see our #530) (on aphillips) due 2024-05-28
[21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/99
#98
<gb> [22]Action 98 fix code points examples in
lang-bidi-use-cases (on r12a) due 2024-05-23
[22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/98
#96
<gb> [23]Action 96 evaluate and where necessary fix
i18n-glossary#76 (on r12a) due 2024-05-02
[23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/96
#93
<gb> [24]Action 93 create best practices for consumers in
string-meta (on aphillips) due 2024-04-25
[24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/93
#90
<gb> [25]Action 90 steal some of henri's text from
scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due
2024-04-18
[25] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/90
#89
<gb> [26]Action 89 update i18n specs to support dark mode (on
xfq) due 2024-04-18
[26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/89
#87
<gb> [27]Action 87 write to IETF ADs about RFC9457 with JcK's
assistance (on aphillips) due 2024-04-04
[27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/87
addison: did while ago, and replied on thread and waiting for
reply
#79
<gb> [28]Action 79 schedule a follow-up call with WHATNOT in
~April (on aphillips) due 2024-03-07
[28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/79
#78
<gb> [29]Action 78 compare infra to i18n-glossary export list
and report back (on aphillips) due 2024-03-07
[29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/78
#43
<gb> [30]Action 43 pull together the list of win/mac/etc apis
for setting base direction and/or language (on aphillips) due
2023-09-18
[30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/43
addison: done for PR, and agenda later
#33
<gb> [31]Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG
for further review (on aphillips)
[31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33
#8
<gb> [32]Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and
formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023
[32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8
#7
<gb> [33]Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting
comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin,
r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023
[33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7
#4
<gb> [34]Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the
character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on r12a) due
27 Jul 2023
[34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4
addison: will write to them on this
ACTION: addison: follow up on [35]action#4 by writing an email
[35] https://github.com/w3c/action/issues/4
<gb> Created [36]action #104
[36] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/104
Info Share
JcK: discussion going at IETF, on strings and characters
… language and direction information
… discussion for screen reader and a11y point of view
… explained in explainer, basically direction by user
… would bring recommendations from IETF and W3C
addison: email thread flows
… will probably suggest some discussion for reasonable
resolution
r12a: talk at June 25th
… called bidi text, organized by Unicode
<r12a> Bidirectional Text (Part 1): The Basics of Bidi
<r12a> Date & Time Jun 25, 2024 04:00 PM London
r12a: you need to register from URL
<r12a> [37]https://blog.unicode.org/2024/05/
new-event-on-june-25-webinar-on.html
[37]
https://blog.unicode.org/2024/05/new-event-on-june-25-webinar-on.html
RADAR Review
[38]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
[38] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
addison: two new incoming
addison: will take device posture
atsushi: will take controlers documents
addison: under review, waiting for input
… web translation api, couple of pending issues
r12a: nothing for html ruby extension, but need to check around
addison: web principles and baggages are moved to completed,
since all issues resolved
Pending Issue Review
[39]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/
issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending
[39]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:pending
[40]i18n-activity#1856
[40] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1856
<gb> [41]Issue 1856 language tag handling needs more attention
(by aphillips) [pending] [needs-resolution] [s:translation-api]
[41] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1856
addison: language tag issue
… high level handling is #1856
<gb> Issue 1856 not found
+1
[all agrees]
[42]i18n-activity#1855
[42] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1855
<gb> [43]Issue 1855 `canTranslate` values `no`, `readily` and
`afterDownload` are not internationalized? (by aphillips)
[pending] [needs-resolution] [s:translation-api]
[43] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1855
r12a: in language tag examples, there are bad examples
addison: this is naming of values
r12a: no strong feelings.
addison: would have some conversations with this group
r12a: IETF question was for 14th Ul /04
Kashmiri/Uighur/Urdu FPWD
Perso-arabic Kashmiri [44]https://w3c.github.io/alreq/arab-ks/
index.html
[44] https://w3c.github.io/alreq/arab-ks/index.html
Uighur [45]https://w3c.github.io/alreq/arab-ug/index.html
[45] https://w3c.github.io/alreq/arab-ug/index.html
Urdu [46]https://w3c.github.io/alreq/arab-ur/index.html
[46] https://w3c.github.io/alreq/arab-ur/index.html
publish arab-ks, arab-ug, and arab-ur as FPWD?
<r12a> +1
+1
jck: +1
String direction APIs
[47]w3c/i18n-drafts#586
[47] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/586
<gb> [48]Pull Request 586 Publish a list of APIs for setting
language and direction in native code (by aphillips)
[48] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/586
String-Meta Consumer guidance PR
[49]https://
deploy-preview-87--string-meta.netlify.app/#bp-consumers
[49]
https://deploy-preview-87--string-meta.netlify.app/#bp-consumers
r12a: bdi, and isolation, problem you don't actually know
without metadata
… you should have direction via bdi tag
You are reading <span id="title"></span>
addison: above example, you need to decorate using span for
parts
… similar to message format one
addison: not like bdi, span wont isolate things
<r12a> getElementById('title') = `You are reading:
<bdi>{$title}</bdi>`
r12a: default sinario to have bdi, but even if not you should
have dir for changing direction
addison: depends on situation, you should have bdi, direction
or auto
r12a: will read carefully
addison: discussed last week, and to have examples. and added
some here
Kashmiri/Uighur/Urdu FPWD
r12a: plain text example is not identical to html one
+1 for FPWD
addison: back to FPWDs, and resolved
RESOLUTION: publish arab-ks, arab-ug, and arab-ur as FPWD
AOB?
ACTION: ri: Review [50]https://
deploy-preview-87--string-meta.netlify.app/#bp-consumers
[50]
https://deploy-preview-87--string-meta.netlify.app/#bp-consumers
<gb> Created [51]action #105
[51] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/105
Summary of action items
1. [52]addison: follow up on action#4 by writing an email
2. [53]ri: Review https://
deploy-preview-87--string-meta.netlify.app/#bp-consumers
Summary of resolutions
1. [54]publish arab-ks, arab-ug, and arab-ur as FPWD
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