- From: Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:43:46 +0800
- To: www-international@w3.org
https://www.w3.org/2023/10/26-i18n-minutes.html text version: [1]W3C [1] https://www.w3.org/ – DRAFT – Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 26 October 2023 [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log. [2] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/c5b143d1-0a5b-4adb-8d60-0f5f9bfe5a41/20231026T150000/ [3] https://www.w3.org/2023/10/26-i18n-irc Attendees Present Addison, Atsushi, Fuqiao, r12a Regrets JcK Chair Addison Phillips Scribe atsushi, xfq Contents 1. [4]Action Items 2. [5]Info Share 3. [6]RADAR Review 4. [7]no needs-resolution on vc-json-schema 5. [8]Working with String Data Values (draft) 6. [9]AOB? 7. [10]Summary of action items Meeting minutes Action Items xfq: there was some discussion on i18n-CSS joint call <addison> #54 <gb> [11]Action 54 read Murata-san's ruby-t2s-req and Chinese requirements and Zaima and see what we're going to do (on xfq) due 2023-11-01 [11] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/54 addison: on ruby text-to-speech, what was discussion there and comment from Murata-san? <xfq> [12]https://w3c.github.io/ruby-t2s-req/ [12] https://w3c.github.io/ruby-t2s-req/ xfq: see link above for tracker issue … murata-san has been working on this document for a while … florian pointed this during i18n-css call … this document explains ruby requirements from Japanese point of view … and discussion was raised to see any additional requirement from clreq or other languages <xfq> Zaima xfq: I'll read Zaima document and will comment <addison> #53 <gb> [13]Action 53 come up with a set of information CSS want the i18n group to provide support for generic font families (on frivoal, fantasai) due 2023-11-01 [13] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/53 addison: florian and fantasai presented on generic font support for i18n point of view … we had some discussion on generic font name, and had some idea for proposal xfq: there seems some discussion on registries like document, but florian seems to have some disagreement on having such … and framwork has not been initiated yet Info Share addison: published specdev to /TR/ atsushi: Murata-san complained about replaced simple-ruby in jlreq [14]w3c/i18n-activity#1779 [14] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1779 <gb> [15]Issue 1779 [css-text] Extra spacing between ideographs and non-fullwidth punctuation/symbols (by w3cbot) [tracker] [s:css-text] [i:spacing] [spec-type-issue] [jlreq] [clreq] [t:typ_misc] [15] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1779 [16]https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/ [16] https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/ xfq: have one point on text-spacing … between ideograph and other characters … this should be promoted to needs-resolution, since it's under real implementation … and discussion is required sonner than later … there are several issues identified … spacing between ideographs and others like wester characters, but there are open question on ideograph-like characters addison: that seems reasonable to mark as needs-resolution atsushi: as I reported in i18n/CSS call, there was so much ambiguity in the general category code … a lot of discussions about things like halfwidth kana … we may have some questions in the next jlreq call next Tuesday addison: if the spec isn't quite right or the implementations aren't quite right … then we should push on it atsushi: one interesting discussion is Circled Katakana characters … combining characters are quite messy RADAR Review <addison> [17]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 [17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 no needs-resolution on vc-json-schema atsushi: the spec has a i18n considerations section … I believe there's no need to have a i18n considerations section, because the considerations are in another spec … I raised an issue in i18n-activity [18]w3c/i18n-activity#1786 [18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1786 <gb> [19]Issue 1786 [VC-JSON-SCHEMA] overwritting internationalization consideration section? (by himorin) [pending] [s:vc-json-schema] [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1786 <addison> [20]https://www.w3.org/TR/ vc-json-schema/#example-example-name-credential-schema [20] https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-json-schema/#example-example-name-credential-schema addison: I do see they have some examples that have name and description fields … and they're not serialised with lang and dir metadata … their example should include language=en and direction=ltr … either at the document level or for those fields … this document is about other stuff, but they exemplify natural language strings <addison> "name": "Name schema", "description": "A schema capturing a human name", addison: there's nothing wrong with the serialisation stuff and it's all valid JSON Schema [21]Schema.org [21] https://schema.org/ [22]JSON Schema [22] https://json-schema.org/ [23]https://json-schema.org/specification [23] https://json-schema.org/specification atsushi: JSON Schema doesn't have anything about language and direction metadata <gb> [24]Issue 108 JSON schema (by dontcallmedom) [Data] [24] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/108 addison: file that issue and I'll move it over to Awaiting comment resolution Working with String Data Values (draft) <addison> [25]https:// deploy-preview-121--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#working-with-n on-localizable-and-localizable-data-values [25] https://deploy-preview-121--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#working-with-non-localizable-and-localizable-data-values addison: this is from my action item <addison> [26]https:// deploy-preview-121--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#working-with-s tring-data-values [26] https://deploy-preview-121--bp-i18n-specdev.netlify.app/#working-with-string-data-values addison: see hashed link above … early days I wanted to see feedbacks on these sections addison: whole new section <addison> [27]w3c/bp-i18n-specdev#121 [27] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/121 <r12a> specificatino -> specification xfq: second paragraph, above typo exists asigning -> assigning r12a: couple of questions, this is in markup and syntax section, not quite sure why this is not in more general advice … what is the point of this 8.3 section … what we are saying in this section is not matching with title … string data values are very bake, you also categorize normal as down style <xfq> maybe "predefined values" or "predefined constants"? addison: section marked as this is elements and attributes are identified as markup … names and values are written in syntax … we may state these to be syntaxed as well defined r12a: what we should do for strings and captalized schema addison: this is between strings and predefined strings, or seriarized strings r12a: syntax is small, and could drop from here … idea is to have specific markup, or perhaps in some syntax in general xfq: wanted to say another thing on markup and syntax, 8.3 is not specific to syntax … other markup is mentioned also … markups should be moved into another section? addison: upper 8.2 talks about identifiers, so could be? [discussion between markup and syntax...] AOB? r12a: small infoshare … mentioned last week, but I've been working on fonts' list and sample … and getting there … why decided to work on this, for generic callback categories, what kind of fonts exist in OS is important for generics' fallbacks … I think it's florian's ball to look into my article … this document makes understanding what is required [28]w3c/i18n-activity#1783 [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1783 <gb> [29]Issue 1783 CSS `text-spacing` property and its longhands (by w3cbot) [pending] [tracker] [29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1783 xfq: since we have issue above, there is TAG issue on css property, and as i18n-tracker … one alternative might be having another label addison: we should be aware of these addison: we may need to ask TAG that what HR groups should work on review requested from TAG issue r12a: I would say we have s:css-text for specific to document … alternatively s:design-review or something could work? r12a: ask xfq for looking into the triage permission of the w3ctag org on github xfq: will take an action ACTION: xfq to check on permissions with w3ctag and follow up with plh on looking for notifications <gb> Created [30]action #56 [30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/56 Summary of action items 1. [31]xfq to check on permissions with w3ctag and follow up with plh on looking for notifications
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