- From: Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 10:54:17 +0800
- To: www-international@w3.org
https://www.w3.org/2023/09/07-i18n-minutes.html text version: – DRAFT – Internationalization WG Teleconference 07 September 2023 [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log. [2] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/c5b143d1-0a5b-4adb-8d60-0f5f9bfe5a41/20230907T150000/ [3] https://www.w3.org/2023/09/07-i18n-irc Attendees Present Addison, Atsushi, Eemeli, Fuqiao, JcK, Richard Regrets - Chair Addison Phillips Scribe xfq Contents 1. [4]Agenda Review 2. [5]Action Items 3. [6]Info Share 4. [7]RADAR Review 5. [8]Pending Issue Review 6. [9]TPAC Planning 7. [10]WCAG 2.2 8. [11]RDF-star prep 9. [12]Verifiable Credentials localization 10. [13]AOB? Meeting minutes Agenda Review Action Items <gb> Found actions in w3c/i18n-actions: #41, #39, #36, #35, #33, #32, #18, #16, #15, #13, #12, #11, #10, #9, #8, #7, #5, #4 <addison> #41? <gb> [14]Action 41 propose new specdev text on strings for xml (on aphillips) due 2023-09-07 [14] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/41 <addison> #39? <gb> [15]Action 39 develop best practice guidelines for name-like fields (on aphillips) due 2023-08-31 [15] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/39 <addison> #36? <gb> [16]Action 36 follow up with murata-san about wcag status (on aphillips) due 2023-08-31 [16] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/36 <addison> #35? <gb> [17]Action 35 make the edits of CSS #5478 (on fantasai) due 2023-08-30 [17] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/35 <addison> #33? <gb> [18]Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips) [18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33 addison: I've closed ~40 issues … I've been marking issues with needs-attention … we have ~100 issues marked 'close?' … making progress <addison> #32? <gb> [19]Action 32 Approve the character markup PR (on fantasai) due 2023-08-17 [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/32 <addison> #18? <gb> [20]Action 18 Have informal explanation sessions about counter style translations with csswg members (on frivoal, fantasai) [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/18 <addison> #16? <gb> [21]Action 16 Keep track of line-breaking in Korean for i18n-discuss#11 (on aphillips) [21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/16 <addison> #15? <gb> [22]Action 15 Get character styling into w3c stylesheet (on aphillips) [22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/15 <addison> #13? <gb> [23]Action 13 Make sure generics are comfortable to read in the content language (on frivoal) [23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/13 <addison> #12? <gb> [24]Action 12 Upgrade/edit the explainer to address issues raised by google (on aphillips) [24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/12 <addison> #11? <gb> [25]Action 11 Triage all css properties to determine which are logical, physical, or na by default (on frivoal) [25] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/11 <addison> #10? <gb> [26]Action 10 With florian triage richard's article into a list of potential generics (on fantasai) [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/10 <addison> #9? <gb> [27]Action 9 Follow up with ecma-402 on next steps and start tc39 discussion (on aphillips) [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/9 <addison> #8? <gb> [28]Action 8 Create pr against canvas formatted text (on aphillips) [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8 <addison> #7? <gb> [29]Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) [29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7 <addison> #5 <gb> [30]Action 5 Check into how to list questions at the top of a digest and/or improve lang enablement communications (on r12a) [30] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/5 <addison> #4 <gb> [31]Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on r12a) [31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4 Info Share RADAR Review <addison> [32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 [32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 addison: we have no new incoming requests Pending Issue Review addison: that's probably not suprising since there's a publishing moratorium and everyone is preparing for TPAC <addison> [33]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues [33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues [34]w3c/i18n-activity#1756 [34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1756 addison: I had a conversation with AnneVK about applying dirname to some input fields that don't currently have their name … telephone was one … and buttons … passwords were the only one left … RDF is still trying to define string again … Verifiable Credentials Data Model really don't want to use @language in @context … to set the default language in a JSON document … if everybody invents their own mechanism because they don't like @context … we end up with 12 different ways of specifying this document is in English <addison> [35]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/ issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aneeds-attention [35] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:needs-attention addison: if you look at the end of the link … you'll see that there are 20 issues TPAC Planning addison: r12a and xfq might want to have a look and go through these issues <addison> [36]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/wiki/ 2023-TPAC-Planning [36] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/wiki/2023-TPAC-Planning addison: we now have a number of meetings … on Mon, we will meet with webapps in the afternoon … it's confirmed … on Tue, we will meet with RDF-star … and with APA … on Thursday we will meet with CSS at the end of morning r12a: this is all great … it would be great if we could put some links in here to give some idea of what the topic of discussion would be … so that we can prep beforehand … is that possible? addison: in some cases it is … like webapps and RDF-star … we have a lot of open issues with CSS … I'm going through and closing those as quickly as I can r12a: I'm suprised it starts at 8:00 addison: I've changed the wiki page to 9 for now <r12a> [37]https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/#schedule [37] https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/#schedule r12a: this is the official schedule for TPAC 2023 … it says group meetings from 9:30 every day addison: I did not call out Wednesday … Eemeli has a breakout session on DOM Localization on Wednesday … not that we're sponsoring it as a group, but it's i18n related r12a: Monday is the biggest problem for me because we have a team event … Tuesday for me is not such a big problem <r12a> and on Monday people such as myself will need to register at 9am <addison> [38]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/wiki/ 2023-TPAC-Planning#proposed-css-joint-agenda [38] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/wiki/2023-TPAC-Planning#proposed-css-joint-agenda WCAG 2.2 addison: has anybody else taken a look? r12a: as a WG we're trying to unblock it addison: some groups claim that issues they ignored previously are now backwards compatibility r12a: plh was on vacation when he signed off the transition and he admits that he missed … that's a component of the problem addison: it's a single point of failure r12a: it has occurred to me that we're not closing a lot of stuff and yet people are flying through transitions … and we need to look more closely at that addison: green color doesn't mean that we put that label addison: I'm gonna schedule some time maybe on Monday morning <r12a> [39]https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/ schedule.html#tuesday [39] https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/schedule.html#tuesday RDF-star prep addison: there are 2 things going on in that space … one is their attempts to define what a string is … a matter of Unicode terminology … the other thing is the need to add directional metadata to fields … I'll try to dig out the issues and put them in our agenda so that you can all be prepared Verifiable Credentials localization addison: VC is the other thing I want to bring up … they're trying to do the right things somewhat … although they use JSON-LD … they want to allow people to process the credentials using regular old JSON … regular JSON processor would not know how to apply natural language string … problem 2 is they're concerned that @language should not be applied to non-language strings and feel that this is required by @context r12a: if there are only 2 strings would it work just to have the language and direction that associateed with those 2 strings? addison: yes, it would … but they've been unwilling to encoding it for every iteration of name and description … there *is* a way to associate metadata with the string … but you can also just decode the string with no metadata … because presumably they're all in the same language … every other JSON-based format will have exactly the same set of problems … some of them won't even be JSON-LD processors at all AOB? addison: I will see some of you in Seville in a few days JcK: I wish you all pleasant travels and a wonderful and relaxing and productive meeting addison: safe travels!
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