- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 18:57:04 +0100
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https://www.w3.org/2022/05/12-i18n-minutes.html – DRAFT – Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 12 May 2022 [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log. [2] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/83b1d2d3-7389-437a-b0d5-32441827a9a3/20220512T150000 [3] https://www.w3.org/2022/05/12-i18n-irc Attendees Present addison, Atsushi, Bert, David, Erik, Felix, Fuqiao, JcK, Richard Regrets - Chair Addison Phillips Scribe addison, xfq Contents 1. [4]Agenda Review 2. [5]Action Items 3. [6]Info Share 4. [7]RADAR Review 5. [8]Personalization 6. [9]WSGL identifier comparison 7. [10]Pull-Request on specdev 8. [11]DOMException localizability 9. [12]Changes to specdev checklists 10. [13]AOB? 11. [14]Summary of action items Meeting minutes Agenda Review Action Items <addison> [15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/ open [15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open <JcK> Richard: thanks. I've already beaten the current crew up with most of that addison: I've started to work on the timezone note … I think I want to retire the time zone proposal action item … will work on backwards deletion soon close ACTION-437 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-437. close ACTION-1140 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1140. Bert: Proposed text with r12a, haven't responded to issue #996 yet close ACTION-1143 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1143. close ACTION-1144 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1144. <r12a> close ACTION-1142 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1142. close ACTION-1145 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1145. close ACTION-1146 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1146. close ACTION-1147 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1147. close ACTION-1148 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1148. <r12a> [16]https://www.w3.org/International/i18n-drafts/ techniques/shortchecklist [16] https://www.w3.org/International/i18n-drafts/techniques/shortchecklist close ACTION-1149 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1149. close ACTION-1150 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1150. Info Share r12a: I was a little concerned because our meeting agenda will go to the public list instead of the member list … I sent an email to vivien … he said the public list is db-backed … Mark Davis is on the member list but not the public list, but I suspect that's because he's one of the people who don't want to received lots of emails … there's no way to change where the agenda should go to … if we want to schedule something we don't want other people to know about, and we dont' want to send it to public, but that doesn't seem to occur anyway … so i don't think there's any way we can do anything addison: the public list gets all of our digest r12a: all of our actions also go to the public list anyway <r12a> [17]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/ member-i18n-core/ [17] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/ r12a: i'm looking at the member list, not a lot of things other than agenda+ … and regrets r12a: the public list doesn't have more subscribers than the member list … the subscribers are mostly the same … there isn't really anything we can do about it … the only thing we can do is to use the member list less [18]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/LogisticsTPAC2022/ [18] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/LogisticsTPAC2022/ xfq: we'd like the Groups to answer the survey on Group attendance at TPAC by the end of this month ACTION: addison: fill in TPAC logistics survey <trackbot> Created ACTION-1151 - Fill in tpac logistics survey [on Addison Phillips - due 2022-05-19]. [19]https://github.com/w3c/TPAC2022-Health-rules [19] https://github.com/w3c/TPAC2022-Health-rules xfq: health rules ^ RADAR Review r12a: I got an email from @@ about all kinds of counter styles <addison> [20]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 addison: two incoming requests addison: Web Neural Network API and MiniApp Lifecycle … atsushi to review WebNN … addison and Bert to review MiniApp Lifecycle atsushi: did not find anything else except the existing pending issues addison: any objections on moving CSS Custom Highlight API Module Level 1 to completed? [silence] Personalization [21]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/ s%3Apersonalization-semantics-content [21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/s:personalization-semantics-content [22]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/878 [22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/878 fuqiao: they are moving towards CR [23]https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/141 [23] https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/141 fuqiao: all four issues raised by addison … they closed this issue, believe it is fixed [24]https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/144 [24] https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/144 fuqiao: can close addison: no objection [25]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/876 [25] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/876 (close, recycle) [26]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/874 [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/874 [27]https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/ content/#values-1 [27] https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#values-1 addison: they are duplicating a list from html, others have also David: I think it's bad form but sometimes people need to say "exactly this" like WCAG x.x or HTML x.x David: also think it is bad form, but working in an environment where required to do "exactly X" addison: any objections on accepting this? [28]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/873 [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/873 xfq: close this WSGL identifier comparison [29]https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/2828 [29] https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/issues/2828 [30]https://gpuweb.github.io/gpuweb/wgsl/#identifier-comparison [30] https://gpuweb.github.io/gpuweb/wgsl/#identifier-comparison fuqiao: they already copied our green box from specdev … that lgtm … the other is to use 'idential to' or 'is' from Infra … but they chose not to use deliberately because Infra uses code units … but they want to use code points addison: effectively the same thing Two WGSL identifiers are the same if and only if they consist of the same sequence of code points. addison: the second note is still kind of scary r12a: it's in a note so I'm assuming this is just a suggestion addison: their definition of homographs is weird … i think they need to say something like visually the same or visually confusable r12a: but i think that might be a separate issue addison: could be addison: are we good? xfq: for this issue we are satisfied and can close the tracker, right? addison: yeah Pull-Request on specdev [31]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/ 2022May/0002.html [31] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2022May/0002.html [32]https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/65 [32] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/65 addison: thank you for your suggestions, r12a … they're very helpful r12a: had to retrofit all of your changes to the new version addison: any objections on the changes I made? [silence] DOMException localizability Changes to specdev checklists <r12a> [33]https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/#ghChecklist [33] https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/#ghChecklist [r12a shares his screen] r12a: i made big changes to the specdev checklist … for three reasons … 1. the checklist is too long … need a more effcient way … basically what they say to do a checklist, you go to the section which is relevant … most of the specs are relevant to language and direction but nothing else … before we had to click all the section headings … now we need only click once … you don't have to click on two checkboxes, you only need to click the second one if it's relevant and you have fixed it … we can get away from the wiki … we can do a short checklist and a long checklist in a github issue … all on the same page now … you couldn't change check marks on the wiki David: language and direction are pretty much relevant to every spec and we can make it checked by default r12a: ok, thank you … it's actually less work than before … previously you couldn't see the wood for the trees … the short list says "also check the long list" addison: we're doing away from the short checklist? r12a: no … you go through the short checklist to find which is relevant … then you go through the long checklist to check the details addison: I think the short checklist doesn't refer to every section in specdev r12a: yes … because it's short Bert: the button that generates the markdown … why not generate the button automatically? <Zakim> Bert, you wanted to suggest that the ‘generate markup’ button can be replaced with an automatically updating function. r12a: yes Bert: people might forget to click the button again after changing the checkboxes r12a: i'm starting to think maybe we should start copying the character model to specdev <Bert> (Not a fan of pages opening in a new tab/window, unless I do that myself with a right-click. I often do not notice that a tab opened and then get confused why the back button doesn't work...) r12a: will do experiment on section 4.1 addison: charmod has grown old r12a: readability improvement and the opportunity to update the information AOB? Summary of action items 1. [34]addison: fill in TPAC logistics survey
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