- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 17:43:45 +0000
- To: www-international@w3.org
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https://www.w3.org/2021/12/09-i18n-minutes.html
– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
09 December 2021
[2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2021Dec/0009.html
[3] https://www.w3.org/2021/12/09-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
atsushi, Bert, David, JcK, r12a, xfq
Regrets
Addison, Fátima
Chair
xfq
Scribe
atsushi, xfq
Contents
1. [4]Agenda Review
2. [5]Agenda Review
3. [6]Action Items
4. [7]Action Items
5. [8]Info Share
6. [9]New, i18n calendar
7. [10]RADAR Review
8. [11]New, i18n calendar
9. [12]Calendar
10. [13]New repo & tool for echidna publishing
11. [14]New repo & tool for echidna publishing
12. [15]AOB?
Meeting minutes
<r12a> [16]https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/
949281c4-4b02-4c2d-9a10-4edaae2305d4/20211209T150000
[16] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/949281c4-4b02-4c2d-9a10-4edaae2305d4/20211209T150000
Agenda Review
Agenda Review
<r12a> [17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
Action Items
Action Items
<xfq> [18]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1098
[18] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1098
xfq: 1078?
… kept open
xfq: 1102
… have done, but not completedly, asking review now
… both website and github
xfq: 1105
… in later item
close action-1105
<trackbot> Closed action-1105.
Info Share
atsushi: haven't done agenda+, but would like to share it with
the group
… checking issues in wpt
… for the past few months
… I wanted to send something to the member list, but not sure
whether that's correct or not
… on Chrome and Firefox run on Linux seems not have non-western
fonts
… Edge on Windows or Safari on macOS seems to have complete set
of international fonts including CJK
… we need to check non-western? code points for tests
… still not sure if this is correct or not
r12a: did you say @@ don't have east Asian fonts?
atsushi: the glyphs of some code points are rendered as tofu
r12a: there is a CJK font I believe available for CJK fonts on
wpt
… you have to look at the font directory in wpt
<r12a> [19]https://r12a.github.io/scripts/fontlist/
[19] https://r12a.github.io/scripts/fontlist/
r12a: here's a list of system fonts for CJK
[20]https://wpt.fyi/
analyzer?screenshot=sha1%3A62184ca0e5591687ca98b3702fb02e5078b3
a727&screenshot=sha1%3Af948379acf4a4ff38703bceb6d1c737f7638a648
[20] https://wpt.fyi/analyzer?screenshot=sha1:62184ca0e5591687ca98b3702fb02e5078b3a727&screenshot=sha1:f948379acf4a4ff38703bceb6d1c737f7638a648
r12a: you need to click on 'japanese' or 'chinese'
atsushi: this is a test
… should display a Han character, but it's not in this
screenshot
john: which calendar?
xfq: could happen on update without choosing 'sending
notification'?
<Bert> I got 1 yesterday and 2 today.
john: one addressed to me, and one to list
… to list, joining instruction needs login
r12a: interesting
New, i18n calendar
r12a: anybody see multiple emails yesterday, again 4 today
xfq: did
<xfq> atsushi: i believe that is the correct behavior
<xfq> ... one email will be sent to the list and one email will
be sent to the participant
r12a: two should be ok, but four seems strange
xfq: when update system will send notification, update without
notification system will not send
<David> I received 4 today and 2 yesterday.
r12a: updated agenda several times, and invitation might be
sent when agenda items were updated everytime
… why two to the list?
john: looks like, one to individual, one updated invitation to
individuals
… original invitation yesterday
r12a: three individual invitations yesterday
… question is why second one today.
john: could be due to removing email address temporary?
r12a: supposed that to list is for archival purpose, and
another to ones listed in database
… another invitation will be sent to ones in individual
invitation list
… system might duplicate that to all?
<xfq> [21]https://github.com/w3c/calendar/issues/22
[21] https://github.com/w3c/calendar/issues/22
r12a: one to the list does never has an invitation link in its
email
xfq: seems to be a known issue in link
john: good to know if W3C wide issue
<r12a> [22]https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/i18n-core/calendar
[22] https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/i18n-core/calendar
r12a: basically, if you go to the calendar system
… you should be able to see list of teleconferences
… I'm hoping this could solve timezone issue
… I believe and hope, this automatically converts DST changes
… you will see in appropriate time
… things we can check here are that, I can correct if anything
wrong
… for now, until January is registered, and will extend to
March shortly
john: bunch of timezones, and some highlighted ones
… problem is what you will receive
r12a: i18n in practice
john: <on GMT>
r12a: you should be able to see all upcoming teleconferences,
but you still need to write email for agenda+
<xfq> agenda, close this item
RADAR Review
<xfq> [23]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
[23] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
xfq: any update?
[24]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/167
[24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/167
<xfq> r12a: is this a review for a self-review, or review for a
document?
<xfq> atsushi: not sure
<xfq> r12a: could you clarify that?
<xfq> atsushi: @@
r12a: this is not clear whether a request for review on spec or
check on self checklist results
xfq: will leave this here for a while, and tell atsushi to take
actions for clarify and additional information
<r12a> the i18n group is concerned that the group intends to go
to CR 'soon' but hasn't yeet issued a request for wide review
<r12a> the i18n group would like specific pointers to what has
changed in the spec for the review
xfq: three other agenda items, addison is not here and cannot
discuss about string-meta and security issue
r12a: agree, should be repeat one
New, i18n calendar
Calendar
r12a: want to ask about possibility on change agendabot get the
agenda from the calendar, rather than an email ?
bert: could be possible, and could take sometime
<xfq> r12a: Can agendabot read the agenda in the W3C calendar,
Bert?
New repo & tool for echidna publishing
New repo & tool for echidna publishing
<r12a> [25]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-editors
[25] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-editors
<r12a> [26]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-editors/echidna-pub/
[26] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-editors/echidna-pub/
r12a: links above
… yesterday or before, richard and xfq setup new repository
… idea is to one goto place for chairs and editors, for
procedure of go through list of document publishing
… at this moment, we have links to publishing guidelines and
editorial guidelines
… two are working for editorial guidelines at another
repository
… new document in this repository, handy guide to publish
working draft, as second link
… this is a form, type login credentials, and go through steps
listed, and them get stuff for publication
… there is a box at bottom for one to be pasted in echidna file
… for gap-analysis document, need to be careful on link checker
… will get images from github, which blocks you due to API
limit
xfq: in near future, need to change from WD to DNOTE
r12a: necessity in any case, also for echidna file
xfq: I saw r12a sent an email to i18n editors
atsushi: my email is just an idea without final form
r12a: if you find anything, provide as email
xfq: link from i18n pages?
AOB?
xfq: any AOB?
… silent, and finish this meeting
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